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What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'

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[–] droplet6585@lemmy.ml 202 points 3 weeks ago (43 children)

Hur hur. I'd wish people would stop assigning hyper-competence to Nazis. They never were. Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 142 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Exactly this. My grandmother lived under the Nazis and she said they were fucking idiots. Exactly the same type of incompetent blowhards. The whole hyper scientific ubermensch BS in the cultural zeitgeist is so frustrating. I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 73 points 3 weeks ago

It's hard to convince people that they've been had by a bunch of morons.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The strength of the Germans was that I.) they had a really good industrial base, and ii.) the traditions within the army meant they had extremely well trained soldiers. Both of these predate nazi-rule. For instance, Germans also arguably had the best (equipped) army in WW1.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Early Nazis also galvanized a young working force with actual socialist policies that guaranteed them good jobs and housing (before Hitler's multiple violent party purges, scrapping most of it for a fascist-capitalist junta)

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 11 points 3 weeks ago

I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.

I guess Wolfenstein being banned for glorifying Nazis actually had some merit.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.

German trains still don't run on time. Can't blame that one on the Nazis, that's just a German thing.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Still better than Canadian rail. That shit is regularly late. Significantly late.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 130 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:

“I heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.

“Someone said, ‘Musk is not a Nazi... Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Right, and here's the clip.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 63 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Still a Nazi.

Just America shrinkflated Nazism so the intelligence had to go. Still 100% of the hate and malice America loves to eat though.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yes. He's still a Nazi. You're not getting the point.

Fry is trying to provoke Musk into saying, "yes, they're good enough," turning it an admission that he is indeed a Nazi.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

Let's repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit

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[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of "cultural purity" beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:

  1. He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid...

  2. He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I wonder where she is now....

Awww. She's all grown up, and seemingly successful.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It's the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It can't realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can't travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.

[–] not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Wasn't the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago

You do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to them

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I'd imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 weeks ago

All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If Elon isn't a full-blown Nazi, he's at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

based we did it fascism is defeated

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fry used to be on Mastodon, not sure if he's still there ?

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago

TBF, Elon's cars are great at killing groups of people with toxic gasses and then incineration their bodies. Just because he isn't efficient today, doesn't mean he isn't working on being a better Nazi tomorrow.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Elon is the new Henry Ford. But I'm afraid we have no modern day Roosevelts to smack him down.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Henry Ford actually had some good ideas himself. Elon steals all his ideas.

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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