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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If he excludes oil from the tarrifs, we should increase the price of oil exports ourselves.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 days ago

Damn straight, put export taxes til the US stops sending guns north of the border.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Alberta would not play nicely.. Danielle Smith is a boot-licker and will do anything to please Trump.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sometimes I wonder what the alternative universe where JT inherited his dad's spine would look like.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Give them the extra profit if we have to. The rest of us are all willing to make sacrifices, sometimes it's easier to give the baby a soother than listen to their incessant whining.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Surely putting tariffs on about 60% of American oil imports will do wonders for their gas prices.

[–] genfood@feddit.org 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Canada come join us in the EU.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 days ago

Yes, please. We share a terrestrial border with Denmark and a maritime border with France.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I'd rather not give up currency sovereignty. Closer economic and military ties, sure, but not full membership. There's also the reality that some of the most powerful economies in the EU in Germany and France are flirting with their own neo-fascist movements.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Can you please explain why you think currency sovereignty is such a big hangup? I see lots of potential issues with joining the EU, but having to use the Euro doesn't even register for me as a problem.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

See my reply to the other commenter in this thread. Additionally, currency sovereignty is a cornerstone of modern monetary theory, were Canada to want to adopt something like that.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

okay but it’s also kinda the cornerstone of the single market sooooo

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Giving up your national currency for one managed by the European Central Bank is the opposite of currency sovereignty.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago

i agree, and never said it was, however currency sovereignty being a sacred cow isn’t a great way to form policy

why is it good? what does it give you? (youve answered in another comment a couple; there are plenty!)

but single market relies on single currency, and that gets you a whole lot too. you said you’d like to join the EU but not the single currency, but the UK proved that situation was sorta shit for the whole EU

you can’t really be part of the single market the way it’s intended without being part of the single currency

[–] genfood@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] grte@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

Because national control over the Canadian dollar gives us a lot of flexibility that adopting the Euro would take away. Particularly in a country that is about to have to attract new trading partners to buy our exports, the ability to devalue our dollar to make those exports more attractive is going to be important.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 days ago

Fuck Nazis.

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago
[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[–] chuck@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I hope we throw in somethingn into the retaliatory package like vehicles entering the Canadian boarder need to be zero emissions, those trying to enter with non compliant vehicles will have them seized at the boarder.

That alone should keep most riff raff out of Canada.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago

As funny as this is, in practice we want them coming up here to spend money.

What we'll do, like last time, is tariff in a very targeted way, hitting specific products where consumers have easy access to alternatives. Like slapping tariffs on bourbon, for example.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I need to stock up on popcorn. The next 4 years are going to be amazing.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm stocking up on rice and beans and survival foods as the next great depression is about to drop. If it doesn't? I got a decade of camp food.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

There are lots of cooking methods that can help save money

You can take a lot of your food wastes and freeze it and then make broth. I save my pan drippings for roux, gravy, and sauces.

I think this spring I’m going to try planting vegetables, my brother is very into his vegetable garden and has good tips.

Also things like a bag of steel cut oats are more nutritious and filling than instant oatmeal.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I both love and hate comments like this (and say that having made more than a few of them myself). It's great to see people sharing advice on how to cook better, do more for yourself, do more at home, etc. I really enjoy making my own pickles, baking bread, making home made stock from scraps.

On the other hand, it disgusts me that comments like this are necessary. It's the twenty first century, humanity has built flying machines, travelled into space and harnessed the power of the atom, and we're out here sharing basic survival advice with each in the hopes of making it through one more day. Shouldn't our basic standard of living be better than that of hunter-gatherers by now?

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree with you there.

My mom learned this cooking from her mom growing up in the depression. She would not throw out anything and always kept a stacked cellar of very old canned foods she had collected over the years.

I cook this way to connect back to my roots and it makes me happy, it's what I ate as a kid. That we are in a place where food banks are at all time high demand and this advice is needed is sad.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even the great depression was, itself, an entirely artificial crisis.

I'm not saying that it occurred artificially; the causes were all real, and happened naturally.

But if you consider for even a moment the idea that a stock market crash leads to widespread starvation, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

Times of hardship used to be caused by things like droughts or harsh winters; stuff that actually impacted our ability to support ourselves in a physical way.

But how does someone's investments failing prevent a farm from growing food? Does crop fertility track with the Dow-Jones? Does soil become less tillable because the FTSE is down?

The idea that people should starve, in a world that has no less ability to produce crops than it did yesterday, just because there is suddenly less money moving around, is absolute lunacy. In a sensible world, we'd think less about money and more about resources. Resources do not depend on the stock market. Resources do not become more scarce because a bunch of people made bad bets on the housing market.

No one should starve in a world with the capacity to feed everyone. And we have more than the capacity to feed everyone.

[–] moonbunny@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Iirc, there was also a majorly catastrophic weather event ripping through the majority of prime farmland around the start of the Great Depression that caused tons and tons of crops to fail as a result, which would’ve made access to food scarce and likely more expensive.

I believe it was The great dust bowl that happened around 1934/1935, but I’d have to double check

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

OK, that's fair. I'd forgotten about that particular detail. More fool me. But it's notable that no such catastrophe existed in 2008, and no such catastrophe exists today, and yet we're still struggling to put food on plates despite more than enough food existing for everyone.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

The steel cut oats also taste better, imo. :)

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago

I can't, Orville Redenbacher is made in USA