I genuinely hope the cartels find out the identities of the troops and send pieces of them back to their families with the note "send more"
this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2025
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Arent the Mexican cartels armed and funded by the US? Would this be more like an internal conflict?
yeah it would be trump-aligned military vs pentagon cartels vs cia cartels
The only issue is most of those killed are Mexican civilians
Yeah, good point 
If anyone has good reading about this, I know a lib who needs to see it.
Here's one of the big books on this sort of topic. I haven't read it, but I've not seen a bad review of it.
Yeah I'd love some too.
I know we don't like the u.s. military and are salivating to see them lose, but I'm not convinced the cartels alone would pose * as * much of a problem as people seem to be implying here.
The u.s. would almost definitely take some hits and losses and be dealing with long-term guerilla warfare to be sure, but even with cia funding I don't think the cartels are a 100% even match for an actual military with jets and whatnot.
yeah, I like to shit on the military as much as anyone but it's useful to remember what us strategic losses in asymmetric warfare look like and it usually involves hundreds of thousands of people indiscriminately killed
Yeah the idea that the cartels would be anything more than Latino Taleban is silly. Air superiority and all that.
A US-Mexico concflict, with the assumption cartels side with Mexico? Maybe, but at that point we're just playing fantasy football.
The way users here post about mexican cartels reminds me of how kids in the 00's would post about anonymous.
Considering how many troops get dinged for trafficking drugs, I don't think this conflict will happen. Or if it does, it will be a kind of limited hangout, with the military helping one cartel destroy another for appearances and nothing fundamentally changing.
American troops when war starts
The cartels would get absolutely smashed doing anything in the open and just move further underground. The only difference is now they'd probably be more likely to use things like roadside bombs. Depending on how things go they could sanitize their image as freedom fighters instead of narcos. And probably a lot more drug use in the rank and file in the USA military.
There's a massive tunnel network for miles around the border (I know because I saw it in fast and furious).
But seriously, American troops getting picked off in the desert has been our doctrine for 30 years, it's just come home.
If it happens I can only hope watching their zoomer children getting domed on censored bodycam footage on TV channels shakes some of the bloodlust out of Americans
And if that doesn't do it, they should send pieces back to their families with a note reading 'mid'
the US is just going to carpet bomb some neighborhood and count every corpse as an enemy
I don't think it would be simple to convince soldiers to inavde Mexico. Sure, orders are orders, but it would be met with resistance. Unless, of course, some cartel members blew up a building in Houston. Then the sabers would rattle to the rhythm of the drums of war.
Of course that would beg the question, "If borders so secure, how did bombs?"
To which they'd reply, "Cartel sympathist! We was attacked! Stupid socialist, go live in Mexico if you love it so much! They hate our freedoms! Alamo!"
Lockheed and Boeing salivate as they fund both sides of an intense border skirmish, full of clashes and conflict, but never a war.
Support would quickly wane until there's some citations missing from a New York Times report about yellow cake uranium or some kind of ray gun that makes people allergic to burgers, being developed only 100 miles south of San Antonio?!?
I don't think it would be simple to convince soldiers to inavde Mexico.
The United States invaded Mexico in 1916, with 10,000 troops led by John J. Pershing, and also intervened in the Mexican Revolution using war ships. It happened before, it can happen again. The only reason the USA did not coup Cardenas when he nationalized Mexico's oil industry and created Pemex in 1938 is because FDR needed Mexico's help in the lead-up to WWII - Trump has absolutely no mercy for Shinebaum or Morena in general.
I apologize if I may have unintentionally mislead you. I made no attempt to say it couldn't happen again. On the contrary, I was simply using comedy to allude to a possible false flag attack in order to justify an invasion.
The part you quoted was there to misdirect the reader to set up for the great merriment laid out later in the comment.
In all seriousness, massive layoffs and the destruction of the little social safety nets are going to funnel many desperate people into one of the few benefits-rich institutions in America: The Military.
Idk, I feel like it's easier to convince the troops to invade Mexico than it is to invade some country in the Middle East.
There are plenty of racist nationalist chuds in America itself let alone the military.
I feel like a lot of conservative types see it as using the military to deal with an "actual" problem that effects the US border, it's soverngty and it's citizens.
While I'm sure garden variety racism will do the heavy lifting at first, the soldiers and those back home will need more to believe in once the flights back start to fill with bodies.
The cartels are fighting each other. The US would be taking on a group of warlords busy with minor squabbles. On top of that these warlords are mainly engaged in suppressing local populations, bribing the police and so on. They're not some elite military unit.
You'd just see another Afghanistan basically.
What could be an "interesting" turn of events is if the national cause/pride and common enemy unites the cartels. However if that's the turn of events I'm going to say it was all an op to create an insurrectionary military in Mexico that can topple Claudia.
Or maybe I'm missing out on some vital information about cartels. It just seems to me they're getting hyped by scaremongering politicians in the us. I've got family living over there and none of them talk about cartels, (I could really stop the sentence here, it's not a big topic,) like they're some massive military threat.
so they're just going to attack Langley?
I think the Cartels would decimate the US military. There is a 0% chance that fight stays south of the border. The Cartels would be hitting targets on American soil, and those soldiers would be getting kidnapped, and held for ransom. It would be a disaster. You'd have US politicians going into hiding out of fear. The Americans do NOT want that smoke.
The Mexican cartels going rogue and actually invading the US thus bringing war to US soil for the first time in hundreds of years was not on the 2025 bingo card. That would be some hilarious and immediate blowback.
Although, I think it would lead to even more severe racism.
Nah, the cartel threat is overblown imo, even with CIA funding.
I'd love to be proven wrong though, I do know that some have managed to get anti-tank weaponry from the US military
I think it'll be Vietnam 2.0 but right on the border. Plus they already have networks of armed operatives INSIDE the US. Experienced ones. It would be a disaster in more ways than 1.
They most definitely are already stateside, they just lay low.
then we get to go to liveleak and watch kidnapped american public figures get turned inside out
Hospitals use cesium to sterilize things, they transport it in the same armored vans banks use to transport money. Every other year someone kills himself because they robbed the wrong one, and opened the cesium box.
So why aren't people stealing those vans and irradiating targets in the us?
Like really that often?
I'm not from the states so I might be missing something, but I'm not sure they actually want to. I feel like this is more to do with birthright citizenship. If they can fabricate enough evidence to classify any Mexican as an enemy combatant, they don't actually need to contradict the 14th amendment.