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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's a chinese company, where else would they store the data?

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think its called a data lake, so they don't "store" it, its rather floating around there πŸ€ͺ

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These lakes are formed when the cloud is saturated and gives us data precipitation.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

thanks for the great picture πŸ‘

so here is the current cloud clima forecast:

The saturated clouds will rain into the data lakes that are already overspilling here and there into the ransomstreams already taking all soil in their way with them. During the day there will be security clouds preventing from visible rain only while during the night those same security clouds rain themselves all collected data to their homelake while their homelake security already is corrupted and spills over regulary.

As soon as the fort-cisc-pal-ocstricken-redm-ondams breach it'll gonna have floods with multi-exabyte waveheights and the ripples of the release will be felt over to far east china and the currents will circulate around the world multiple times causing damage and devastation in their wake around the world and eventually even reach connected orbit.

The floods will have the potential to also wash away and /or drown or choke all the big tech dinosaurs. Only small foss mammals and deep sea amphibics will survive this historic event.

... you kinda asked for it πŸ˜‰ same as "they" kinda asked for it too. πŸ€”

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago

So I won't use this for the same reason I don't use any AI? Cool

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, uh... If you think that American companies aren't doing this same thing and handing your data over to the government without a warrant among other bad uses, I have some bad news for you. This is pretty much par for the course, and I'm pretty sure that we're witnessing a well financed negative media blitz happening to try and keep OpenAI from getting all of its spaghetti spilled. Watch for the government to try and ban deepseek for "national security" reasons soon.

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago

Chinese company uses servers located in China. More news at 11.

[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Chinese company does what American companies have done for 25+ years now!

Is it time for REAL data privacy laws or are we just gonna keep playing whack-a-mole with Chinese tech companies that get us nowhere?

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[–] Jentu@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Idk DeepSeek probably just stores things in the history of my Terminal window.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I swear people do not understand how the internet works.

Anything you use on a remote server is going to be seen to some degree. They may or may not keep track of you, but you can't be surprised if they are. If you run the model locally, there is no indication it is sending anything anywhere. It runs using the same open source LLM tools that run all the other models you can run locally.

This is very much like someone doing surprised pikachu when they find out that facebook saves all the photos they upload to facebook or that gmail can read your email.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

The telephone company knows your phone number!

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Any ChatAI logs your keystrokes and your inputs to work and update their LLM. The PP and TOS is the same and even better as those from the US competitors. DeepSeek is OpenSource

Anyway I prefer Andisearch and its PP, the best of all these big tech AIs.

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[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah and ChatGPT doesn’t

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago

Yes? Is it a surprise that a Chinese company stores it's data on a Chinese server?

[–] Azenis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I trust DeepSeek Open Source if it allows me to copy and review it. I don't trust ~~Open~~AI like ChatGPT.

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[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I feel safer knowing that my data is not in a country where the company can use it against me

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[–] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 day ago

haha, now do openai

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

This is my total lack of surprise.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Nope, At least we can check DeepSeek's source code

Unlike OpenAI..... oops I meant ClosedAI

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not excusing Chinese companies but everyone does the same shit. I bet a lot of US companies that behave the same or worse will be looking for trade barriers to protect their business so their interests will be stoking fear of Chinese competitors. I don't really give a shit which country is doing it, I am not buying what they are selling.

US companies have a stranglehold on government, education and business and are getting access to my families data despite my personal objections. Far more concerned about that than a Chinese service I have no intention of using.

Deepseek can at least be self hosted if you want AI in your life. I can happily live without it.

[–] tht@social.pwned.page 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I run it locally on a 4080, how do they capture my keystrokes?

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 340 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (97 children)

DeepSeek does the same things that OpenAI does, but it's a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

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[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

no sh*t! now tell me, not that it's correct, but what does the chinese intelligence apparatus can do to me vs. what the u.s. intelligence apparatus (which has been collecting intelligence about me since i'm alive) can do to me?

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago

As a queer woman in the US, I currently care infinitely more what the US gov and companies track about me than what China does.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 139 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This "China's AI is taking your data and that's bad" is shockingly similar to "TikTok is taking your data and that's bad". Lots of US counterparts do the same thing, but I don't see (as much) media coverage about that.

Don Draper: "no no no, everyone else's cigarettes are dangerous. Lucky Strikes are... toasted."

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Your devices keyboard app has been collecting all of your keystrokes.

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[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 1 day ago

And? This anti China propaganda is falling apart.

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