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Tired of duckduckgo using MSN's amp thing for news or blocking some websites, and it's now adding shit AI too. Don't want to spend any money running a searxng instance for the time being and most public instances are too overwhelmed.

Any suggestions? Doesn't need to be perfect, just not too annoying.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

I like the SearX search engine. It gives old-school, relevant search results, not google ranked ones.

https://search.inetol.net/

It's also spread out over many separate instances, so you can pick the one that best suits your search needs:

https://searx.space/

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

I've been kind of liking Brave Search lately, even though I'm not really a fan of the browser.

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 points 3 days ago

Brave search, not my browser, but reasonable engine.

[–] leanleft@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

when people say searx, i want to know.. is it duckduckgo or google or both?

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Like the old Dog Pile

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’ve found Kagi has been good enough to justify the subscription price. I like that I can block certain sites, pin and promote others. It has some neat AI features but they only activate when requested and never replace actual results.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wish they'd just stop wasting their time on ai

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I use the assistant, because it has so many models to choose from. I hope they can make a mobile app for it in the future

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

It works in a web browser, especially ez if you enable the quick assist

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 2 days ago

I don't like how ai tends to be a lot worse and slower at fact checking and searching than me

[–] plm00@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I tried it out after getting a referral code from somebody I know granting a 3 month trial. I've been hooked. It's the first search engine that has rivaled Google search, it's so good. I'm often disappointed with DDG (switching to Google later to find what I need), and Mojeek never finds anything. SearXNG has been very close, but is essentially an aggregator, not exactly a Google replacement.

Kudos to Kagi for getting it right.

[–] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Mojeek never finds anything.

Got any examples we can look into?

[–] yuki@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If i search something in a language other than EN/DE/FR... I couldn't find anything. This is very frustrating for an Asian user

[–] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

which languages are you searching in? It's likely that they are as-of-yet unsupported. There are a lot of languages we crawl and index in which aren't en/de/fr but non-neo-latin languages are not currently available.

[–] yuki@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Japanese mostly, not a neo latin language.

[–] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

for the moment it's just not in the crawl; I will add +1 into the "add Japanese" column off the back of this interaction

[–] yuki@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thanks for doing this! Kudos:) & I believe that many users also look forward to search in Chinese and Korean

[–] plm00@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a hard one to answer without losing anonymity. It's with contextual searching, like X business in Y town, or looking up specific or niche software tools. I occasionally give Mojeek a fair shot, then switch away when I can't find what I'm looking for. If you'd like, I'll keep track of those instances and email you with examples, is that helpful?

[–] Mojeek@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

That would be helpful, yes; there is a "submit feedback" button on results pages which allows you to send it directly to us if that works.

[–] Marty_TF@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Quackquackyo

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I use DuckDuckGo. AI isn't bad inherently, just the proprietary, censored, corporate stuff. DuckDuckGo's AI isn't forced on you, is private, open weights, and less censored than the main players.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 0 points 22 hours ago

It used unethically collected databases, you seemed to miss that on your list.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Their results are just bing…

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Ddg is more or less a proxy, but yes

Disroot’s searxng

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 days ago

Kagi seems to be really good, according to John Gruber. I don’t do enough web searches to need an alternative or justify paying for a subscription, so it’s all third-hand for me.

[–] elbowgrease@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

just started using Firefox with ublock origin for the same reason. I run the kagi plug-in on Firefox so I can tailor my search engine preferences (https://kagi.com/). I go back and forth between those two mostly.

[–] mark@social.cool110.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

@AlbigensianGhoul I would recommend @Mojeek as a fully independent engine without any of those "bonus" features.

[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 1 points 3 days ago

Self hosted SearXNG

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've been using the Lycos search engine lol

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] considine@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

AskJeeves for classy results