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Well, fuck you, Cooler Master.

As soon as I turned my VPN off I was able to successfully send my RMA request.

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[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is there a specific page that lists sites/services that don't work with a VPN? Because I have at least 4 to report off the top of my head

I haven't gone through it much but that's a great idea

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

I think it was renamed to CAT wiki

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Won’t an RMA lead to them knowing your physical address anyway? Not sure you can stay private and get replacement gear.

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The reason I use VPN is to hide from local ISP and unknown websites.. not from VPN provider and legit websites

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

not from VPN provider and legit websites

Why not? Aren't you worried about either of them selling/leaking your data? I think a lot of people here are.

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The concern is completely valid and I would like them not to steal the data too

The more I hide the better

But I'm just stating my usage of vpn, which is not fully hiding, but sometimes, distancing my data

Since hiding is often hard and sometimes impossible and (subjectively) is not fully my goal

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You can keep some data hidden from your ISP still

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago
[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s likely bad actors causing your VPN’s public IP address to get flagged. Next time change the exit point.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

That's no excuse. An RMA form is something that all their customers are entitled to use. If anyone finds their IP address blocked, even a VPN IP address, then their warranty claim has effectively been blocked for an invalid reason.

The company has failed their warranty obligations.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I think if hosting an RMA form requires paying for 500x more bandwidth than it's supposed to just because it's being hammered by bots on VPNs, and this was your company, you'd block them too.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

Yup. You can probably do it by mail, if you're so inclined.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, I would rate-limit them. OP is getting a non-rate-limited block. If OP has an ISP problem where they can't access the site, this VPN may be their only option.

I think catloaf's idea is good, but no tech company accepts RMA requests by paper mail.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

I think it depends on where the bottleneck is, and what they're actually trying to prevent, as to whether or not rate-limiting would actually help anything.

If they are blocking source IP addresses explicitly, it could be for a more specific concern we're not aware of, like trying to limit the amount of email "spam" that would be sent out from automated requests. A rate-limit wouldn't fix that issue, only slow it down.

We're all also assuming any of this is even intentional on their or anyone's part.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think this holds in court. “I breached my contract with the plaintiff because other actors inconvenience me.”

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think you assume that there is even a contract, and that if it did exist, it wouldn't allow this.

Going to court for this would also cost way more than the product is worth.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

You must be from the U.S., where there are no customer rights and the law only serves the rich.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did you try switching your exit point?

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I don't use VPNs, but plenty of sites using datadome.co will arbitrarily block me at my residential ISP. datadome.co will first ask you to complete a captcha, and upon your success, you are immediately blocked with no recourse. Here's a typical screenshot: (not mine)

The "contact support" link opens a contact form that goes to a black hole. I've filled out dozens, and never gotten a response.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are you sure it isn't DNS blocking by the VPN?

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This happens to me a lot (I block Google’s domains). shakes fist Curse you Google for hosting it on google.com you tricky fucks!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is there a subdomain you can whitelist?

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There’s not. It’s hosted on either google.com or www.google.com (can’t remember which). I’m pretty sure it’s intentional to get you to unblock Google.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 5 days ago

That is absolutely intentional