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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 hours ago
[–] Aaron@lemmy.nz 20 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Welcome! North or South island?

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[–] Unlearned9545@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Doing the same in a couple of months! Whangherei

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

beers on me mate!

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 150 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

How does one move to New Zealand?

Asking for a friend.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 236 points 18 hours ago (9 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 46 points 18 hours ago

We treat NZ like another state so this isn't all that far from the truth.

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[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 136 points 17 hours ago (21 children)

If you're serious then here you go

Take a look at the skills shortages list as well, because if you can get a job in something on that list, you'll have a much easier time. We desperately need Healthcare workers

You will be welcome here for the most part, but I have started noticing some things that are starting to annoy me, and I know I'm not alone, so fair warning:

Please remember why you're coming here. Nothing annoys me more than Americans who move here and then never shut up about how things were better back home. We have no 2a, our stores are small, and we don't tip. I consider those to be GOOD things. Also, even our right wing party (National) would be considered center left over there. (Sadly that seems to be changing)

If you're just looking for what America was 15 years ago, Australia is what you're looking for. That's not a joke either, I mean that very seriously, Australia is a better fit. It's the USA of the southern hemisphere (sorry Aussies, but tell me I'm wrong)

It's a process, but it can be done! Good luck!

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Although you may not recieve as warm a welcome in Aus at the moment.

A LOT of Australians are mad at Americans for their political culture right now. We have transphobes and bigots here too and theres a lot of Australian bigots who are feeling very bold. Also theres a feeling from the more left leaning people that if we dont have enough resources and room for people fleeing ethnic cleansing, wars and famine we dont have the room for people who didnt like how their democratic election went. Also our cost of living isnt going down either...

Not saying you will get a hostile reaction, or even a negative one... just temper your expectations.

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.nz 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

FYI there's a typo in here which had me reading it like "people-freeing ethnic cleansing", which sounds evil as hell and not at all what you meant

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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 38 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

My take: Aussies are Americans with British humour.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 39 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

...and really shitty Internet access.

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[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How about engineers in NZ?

[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I guess it depends on the kind of engineering you're talking about, but for the most part, yes. Tier 1 straight to residency

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[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (11 children)
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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Trumpeter is currently researching what independent nation to rename yo NUSA...NewUSA.

[–] Splenetic@lemm.ee 40 points 15 hours ago

Nau mai ki Aotearoa e hoa. (Welcome to New Zealand, friend)

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 47 points 16 hours ago

Jealous. Congratulations

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

Isn't New Zealand currently going through their own slide to the right? The Māori only represent like ~17% of the population over there. New Zealand just elected a conservative coalition.

Seems like you're just moving from one place you (presumably) don't agree with to a new place that also just signed up for shit you probably aren't going to agree with.

I mean it looks beautiful but if your travel is for political reasons I fear you're just heading to a different slice of the same.

Have a safe flight.

[–] purrtastic@lemmy.nz 56 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

It’s nowhere near as bad here in NZ

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[–] Splenetic@lemm.ee 17 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

Re NZ politics - Yes and no.

The currect situation is due to some very specific circumstances thst emerged in the chaos of the last 10 years.

  • The centre left Labour Party & PM were hugely popular during covid & won an unheard of majority (normally our electoral system requires a coalition). A swing back to the centre-right was inevitable.

  • The centre right National party, usually our most popular party, had their leadership retire & endured years of in-fighting that made them unelectable

  • Because of this, they've bled a lot of voters to the "libertarian" & "centrist" parties (ACT & NZ First)

  • Also because of this, the current National Party leader is rather inexperienced & has given up some things in the coalition agreements that are more extreme than the public likes leading to record breaking protests.

  • The "centrist" party leader (Winston Peters) is a whole thing that I can't neatly summarize, but imagine a political party designed to cater exclusively to the oldest & dumbest 5% of voters run by that Monorail guy from The Simpsons

In summary, less a slide right & more a correction back to status quo + a few unpopular chaos agents

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 11 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I would characterize it differently.

  • Labour was hugely popular, I agree, but the popularity left when Jacinda Ardern left. She was a extremely charismatic figure; and Labour was at the end of two terms (6 years); with the halo effect gone a lot of the poor decisions they made were highlighted (a lot of the times unfairly).
  • National along with Act and NZ First, pushed hard on the government debt rhetoric during the last election. Blaming Labour for inflation, which it had little control over, but it didn't matter the populous were hurting from low wage growth and high inflation. They were looking for a change.
  • The center right bloc won with a decent majority, though not specular.
  • National fucked up hard! during the negotiations with Act and NZ First. Luxon in a rush to form a government; gave away so much it is frankly baffling.
  • In NZ politics:
    • The Green Party has stated they will never work with National or Act.
    • Labour have said they will not work with Act.
    • This forces Act to only be able to side with National, from Nationals point of view Act should be a minor player on the right of National.
    • NZ First are a bit of a wild card, Winston Peters the leader is an old cunning and in my opinion untrustworthy ally.
    • Te Pati Maori (TPM) will work with both parties, which ever gives them the most of what they want.
  • National could have gone with TPM or NZF along with Act to form a government, they choose to go with NZF and between Winston Peters and David Seymour; got played like a fiddle. In one crazy political power play, Luxon had a meeting setup to negotiate with Winston and David, they didn't bother showing up and made him come to them in another city.

I could go on but, the politics here is just as complex as anywhere else. Overall we have shifted right, further than we traditionally have but not too much further.

The current government has made some truly stupid calls, and has scored a lot of own goals. Their popularity is very low this early in a parliamentary term. They have been in for a little more than a year; if things keep going the way they are, they may be the first one term government we have had in a long time. Our term of 3 years, is short, so most governments get more than one term to show what they are made of.

[–] wildlyfist@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Afaik the shorter version of this is: real estate crooks from the Queenstown area took over politics.

[–] Splenetic@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You make some good points, my comment was originally 3x longer at first but I cut it down in the interest of not rehashing 185 years of history

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 4 points 11 hours ago

I was thinking of going into far more detail.....but the comment was already getting long.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 32 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Much of the world is sliding to the right. And much of it is not sliding nearly as far or as fast as the USA.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 33 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

How have you prepared yourself for living upside-down and in the future?

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