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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 months ago

Jesus Christ I'm tired of hearing about this TikTok bullshit every goddamn day

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 months ago

They miss the early phase of enshittification. The reason a normal person could get 50 million views in 24 hours is because the tiktok office had a way to juice the algorithm for specific videos and show it to everybody. And they were just doing this for free. Just like Facebook used to show content to people organically. Eventually tiktok starts selling ads and maximizing value, and then you have to pay for the success they used to give for free.

Wait if tiktok is a private company, maybe it wouldn't do that exactly the same way as Facebook and Google

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I think those „success stories“ were always at least a little fabricated by the algorithm that somewhat randomly pushed a selected few lucky users immensely just to show the rest how you can become a media sensation overnight. It gives the platform free publicity as opposed to distributing visibility more evenly. Besides the ad revenue on TikTok is almost non existent even compared to Youtube. It was never a platform that you could realistically become successful with even if you got views.

[–] Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

It literally has more registered users than there were registered for the US presidential election

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Besides the ad revenue on TikTok is almost non existent even compared to Youtube. It was never a platform that you could realistically become successful with even if you got views.

If TikTok was widely known for being bad for making money then maybe it pulled some people who didn’t care about money like on old YouTube.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

success, content

Making shitty videos is a stupid hobby, not a job.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can say the same about the whole entertainment industry then. You just prefer other things than short form, visual content.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I cannot say that a great movie is equivalent to a meme in an animated GIF.

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is saying that. But I will take a great meme over a shitty movie any day.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is saying that

Well, that other guy was saying this so...

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, they did not. All I saw was a statement that people making a living on sites like TikTok or YouTube are also part of the entertainment industry. Which is just a fact. Whether you like short form content on these sites or not doesn't change that fact.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

part of the entertainment industry. Which is just a fact

Your facts are yours only, and laughable too. Get a job, something that is the tiniest bit useful. But filling the internet with your inane thoughts is definitely not a job, nor does it belong in a forum dedicated to technology. The mere "fact" that any moron can pretend to have a job by putting 30 seconds videos in the latest fad is disgusting and unworthy of humanity.

Woops, I already spent more time answering your post than those idiots have spent filming themselves spewing what idiotic thoughts came out of their brains. Am I an influencer now?

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Am I an influencer now?

You aren't making any money from it, so, no.

Like it or not, people make a living doing this.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

people make a living doing this

I know. The tiktok ban may fix that for some time hopefully.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

what's with this curmudgeon type shit? their livelihood is at risk. just because you're not part of the ecosystem doesn't mean you need to dismiss a way to make money thats worked for quite a few people.

[–] Lantern@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Their livelihoods are only at risk because they ignored the cards for the previous five years. If you’re living in the US, and haven’t spread your content out to other platforms by now, you are in that situation because of your own inaction. I refuse to sympathize with people who aren’t capable of simple logic.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 11 points 5 months ago

If it pays the bills for those people, what difference does it make? Other than "me no likey", that is?

[–] Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 5 months ago

I've come from an era of the internet where - you're not supposed to be internet famous. That's like a frowned upon thing where people think you lead a loser life because you got infamous on the internet. Now people are fretting about how many views they get.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Morons who should have been doing that in the first place. You never want all your content and success to hinge on the whim's on one corporation.

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh no
anyways

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Didn't Vine do this once, then TikTok came along and did it, more or less? Won't there just be another one sometime before we know it?

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

~~Have people somehow forgotten that VPNs exist? Like millions are moving to rednote but the easier way is to literally just, at minimum, get a shitty free VPN, and still have access to tiktok.~~

~~Personally tho, I'd probably opt for a cloud server VPN if I really needed one.~~

Edit: this was a stupid take, I forgot the app would be removed from devices and that it will cause inconvenience.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You vastly overestimate the average person's technical ability.

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago

Honestly, true. I must be underestimating how tired I am and overestimating how much brain power I got left because, I must say, I barely had a single thought when typing that.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Any roadblock in using a social media will turn off 90% of the users.
Which means the creators will be gone, too.
Sure, you could connect to it via VPN, but most of the content you like won't be there anymore.

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

I fully agree with that, and I was wrong in assuming that it'd be very simple. In my country, we only got online piracy firewalled, so I don't have experience with apps or other kinds of websites getting banned, and somehow I assumed that most of the demographics of a service would try and use it a different way just like how we use VPNs to hop on the pirate bays, but that isn't the case.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

VPN's are grand, if you're using a PC, if you're using a smartphone the app is about to be dissapeared, also if your bag is monetization, good luck getting a bank to accept digital deposits from TikTok

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Oh right, I somehow didn't think they'd remove the app at first, I thought they'd just firewall it or smthn. The monitisation part also makes a lot of sense too. Honestly I don't have even the smallest experience with witnessing anything online get banned in my country apart from piracy.