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[–] ZoDoneRightNow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 hours ago

"The cost of running the hallucination machine is too expensive so instead of charging people who want to use it, we have instead decided to charge everyone who uses any of our services even if they don't want to use the hallucination machine"

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So I've never used Microsoft office because I could never afford it. I went from notepad to wordpad to OpenOffice to libreoffice. I've never had a single issue even as a professional not using word. I actually really enjoy writing as a hobby and I just don't get this copiolet thing. Why would I want something to do the thing I like doing? Screw that.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

For professional settings, I understand the theoretical appeal of ai writing. A lot of people don't like writing emails, but they have to for work. Many of those same people fret about tone or presentation, because silly office politics reasons (real or one-sidedly imagined in their heads.)

The solution, really is workplaces just need to cut down on the useless drivel emails and people need to be ok with short, no frills emails.

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There are tons more applications in the workplace. For example, one of the people in my team is dyslexic and sometimes needs to write reports that are a few pages long. For him, having the super-autocorrect tidy up his grammar makes a big difference.

Sometimes I have a list of say 200 software changes that would be a pain to summarise, but where it's intuitively easy for me to know if a summary is right. For something like a changelog I can roll the dice with the hallucination machine until I get a correct summary, then tidy it up. That takes less than a tenth of the time than writing it myself.

Sometimes writing is necessary and there's no way to cut down the drivel unfortunately. Talking about professional settings of course - having the Large Autocorrect writing a blog post or a poem for you is a total misuse of the tool in my opinion.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

As a software dev, I have the feeling you just described texts that nobody will ever read :-) or so I feel.

Props for the dyslexic help tho.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

Wow Lotta folks gonna discover that LibreOffice is much better than MS Office. Not to mention, free.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 21 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

There are home users of Microsoft 365?

I'm not shaming but I kinda am. Like WTF is wrong with you? You pay for free shit.

Office employees don't get to choose.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

They bundle it in laptop purchases. M$ dominate because of the b2b stitch up.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 16 hours ago

Actually I have admin access to my work laptop, so while my employer pays for what ever the fuck they pay for I frequently use FOSS instead.

I do it to make a point.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 45 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Wait, they think people want Copilot? Like enough to pay money for it?

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

They don't, but by providing a "classic tier" they get to kill anyone's argument against it by saying "just don't get it", until they then discontinue the "classic tier" due to a "lack of demand", and force Office users to have AI and pay for it too.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 30 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

They are banking on customers being too invested in office to switch.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think that might be their plan for all their products at this point. Just existing though inertia.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For reasons I won't get into, I had a chance to peruse the training program for the sales force of Azure and their strategy actually is telling their potential clients that they already subscribe to Office 365 so they might as well use their cloud too.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, it does not surprise me. The thing that does is how common the approach seems to be in big established tech companies. I mean, it generally never works out (look at IBM, Intel, Sun, and to some degree Apple).

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That with a side of suppressing a competitor. Similar to how they include Teams for corporate plans. If it is included in your M$ apps suite, then your company might want to cut back on Slack and just make due.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 5 points 16 hours ago

MS teams sucks so fucking much, I don't understand how such a large company can make such a deficient product.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

It's a safe bet. I wonder if enterprise pricing is that high.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Copilot Is literally ChatGPT With a diff logo and name.

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I use both for work, copilot is worse.

[–] a2part2@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

It's "ENTERPRISE"

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

COPILOT IS NOW A PAID FEATURE?????? hell nah, microsoft be banking on their users.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Quickest enshittification.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 27 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

For anyone who doesn't already know the good FOSS alternatives:

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 5 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

additionally Onlyoffice (But Onlyoffice isnt fully open source)

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

OnlyOffice, you say?

😏

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 25 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Preaching to the choir here but LibreOffice has been excellent since my MSOffice license expired. Unless you're working in an enterprise setting with MS-specific macros or online collaboration, there's no reason to be paying for basic document editing software in 2025.

There are also self-hosted and open-sourced collaborative editing suites available that I haven't tried yet, but there are plenty of options

[–] AppearanceBoring9229@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Even if you need microsoft office for some random file you can use their free web version. Well it's been a couple years since I last needed it I'm assuming it still exists

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 15 hours ago

Fair enough, but if you're trying to avoid data collection then open-sourced projects are preferable

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Does it save files locally or only cloud? I want to move away from google docs/sheets.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago

I think locally only, LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Fun story, it's called office 365 as when you see the price you'll turn 365 degrees and walk away.

Ok that doesn't really work but God I love that stupid joke.

Anyway I haven't used office personally for ages and never seem to run into real compatibility issues with the meager personal/business overlap in my situation.

[–] Kuma@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

It made me chuckle a little imaging that you do a full 365 degree spin Infront of Microsoft and then walk away (in an awkward way), instead of 180 degrees to walk the opposite direction haha

[–] xuv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

At the right distance it's just enough pivot to give them a spiteful shoulder check on the way out.

[–] MyRobotShitsBolts@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Technically speaking with 365* of rotation if you are far enough away you will be able to walk past microsoft, so this is possible.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 2 points 15 hours ago

Because of the Earth's curvature you mean?

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

365 spin, then realizing your mistake and awkwardly walking backwards out of the room

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