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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 95 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, smart people: I sure do love Libre Office.

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

OnlyOffice for those feeling that Office style itch.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Libre Office.

Honestly - and flame away - I hate the name. I hate saying it. It's the 'moist' of borrowed words. Leeeeeeeebr. And I'm a Canadian who did French up to university-level conversational "explain something for 20 min" French (from a gorgeous caribbean dynamo teacher, but I justif--uh, digress) so I know how to say the word and what it means.

And I still hate it. I'm a horrible person -- even before I continued French study because the prof was so engaging and energetic and brightened every room and every day and made French interesting just on inclusion.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I pronounce it AbbyWord and Gnumeric. I'm too old to have need of a full office suite anymore-- Libre or not.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Absolutely not

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Lee-bra, like libra

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Glad I'm not the only one questioning the name! I have a pet theory that if they changed it it'd be more popular.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I feel bad for canadians learning french. It's a language that's only useful in like, 1.5 places in the world.

I genuinely believe french canadians are hurting their next generation by filling their heads with nonsense of a dying culture. Kind of like how racists fill their kids' heads with garbage because they're afraid of becoming irrelevant.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We should all bow to the American overlords indeed. Coca cola and burgers are the peek of humanity

[–] john89@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wow... do french canadians really believe that learning french is a way to fight back against America?

Just... wow. I knew they were delusional an insecure, but this really puts things into perspective for me.

Glad we could have this conversation.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

French Canadians, (Québécois), believe it's a way to fight other Canadians. If it works against Americans? Well that's just a bonus.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

There are over three hundred ~~thousand~~ million people speaking it. On all continents. It's fairly useful. Maybe you should travel more.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Over three hundred thousand million people? On all continents?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok, I mistyped, it's three hundred million. Don't know where that thousand came from. :)

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Looks like if I want to learn French, I'll be able to speak it in:

-France

-A few place in Canada that also speak English

-France's colonies in Africa

-A tiny country in South America most people can't name by looking at this picture

I rest my case. French canadians are pretentious about the significance of the french language. They don't want to admit it's a niche language and they want to waste people's time learning it in schools because they had to waste their time learning it. They don't want to admit it was and still is a waste of time and energy for those who are not predominantly interested in specifically French/French canadian culture.

Source for picture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_distribution_of_French_speakers

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's ok, you don't have to learn French, nobody's forcing you.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's not about me, try not to project your own selfishness onto everyone else.

There are students in Canada wasting their time learning french because "French canadians are pretentious about the significance of the french language. They don’t want to admit it’s a niche language and they want to waste people’s time learning it in schools because they had to waste their time learning it. They don’t want to admit it was and still is a waste of time and energy for those who are not predominantly interested in specifically French/French canadian culture."

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's an official language of their country, why wouldn't they learn it?

It's as stupid as saying one shouldn't learn English because it'll be displaced by Chinese or hindi anyway.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

French canadians are pretentious about the significance of the french language. They don’t want to admit it’s a niche language and they want to waste people’s time learning it in schools because they had to waste their time learning it. They don’t want to admit it was and still is a waste of time and energy for those who are not predominantly interested in specifically French/French canadian culture.

I guess I can just keep repeating this. No, it's not the same as learning English.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago

If smart people love libreoffice, then I must be dumb. Working with it always seems weird and I never like it.

Fortunately, I can use LaTeX for work; it is far from without issues but while being arcane sometimes (especially when tables are involved), it never really upsets me and the result looks very good. I can say neither for libreoffice or MS office. But at least the former doesn't charge for the experience.

I hope typst gains more traction; it seems really intuitive compared to TeX and you don't necessarily need a macro package. And while it doesn't produce the quality of TeX-based systems yet, it is already good. Then again, Knuth's goal first and foremost goal was quality (and it shows); the system just had to be usable by him.

Don't forget GPT4All or JanAI, for those rare instances that you want to converse with a dumbass.