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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] freethemedia@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Cancelled my yearly subscription. Mozilla, for all its faults, is at least doing things for a better and more open internet that provides a semblance of privacy. Most importantly they are smart enough to not bootlick in public.

Gonna migrate my passwords to Mozilla pass manager and move my vpn to something like Mozilla vpn or mullvad or something.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Why not just use bitwarden? Then when Firefox finally goes under you're not stuck transferring again.

[–] freethemedia@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

True I think bitwarden is the way to go. My bazzite os has it pre installed

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Official statement from Proton, after I filed a complaint:

Hello,   Thank you for contacting us.   We appreciate you reaching out, please be informed that we have shared a response to the community feedback which can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/   We hope you find this information helpful. Should you have any further issues, questions or perhaps a concern that you'd like us to address, please do not hesitate to let us know.

Kind regards,

Ethan Customer Support Proton Mail


My response:

Hi,

Thank you for your response. I wish this would clarify everything, however, the comments he made on Reddit were done with the official Proton admin account, therefore making his personal comments an official Proton statement. https://snoo.habedieeh.re/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/comment/m7ahrlm/ Next to the fact that he posted his personal believes as an official Proton statement, the claims he made are factual untrue, making Proton spread fake news (as noted in the comments under Yen his statement). If it indeed it is just his personal opinion, he should have posted everything from his personal account only.

I have my personal opinion which I don't mind sharing with others, but I won't use a company account to make these claims as that could get me fired.

Andy Yen didn't make Proton a part of his opinion by just sharing it, but by sharing it as Proton. I believe Proton should take action if Proton doesn't want to be affiliated with Yen his personal opinions and with the fake news he spreads.

I would like to know what Proton will do about this incident and how Proton will ensure this doesn't happen again in the future as incidents like these make Proton look unprofessional and breaks trust with its customer base, one which holds privacy and security high. When the CEO is so easy to manipulate by populists and fake news from another country and makes this official Proton statements, how can the company ensure what it stands for.

Kind regards,

W

[–] Bienenvolk@feddit.org 3 points 17 hours ago

Nicely written, please keep us posted!

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

Nicely done, and it will be interesting to see if you get another reply.

[–] sgbrain7@lemm.ee 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

okay cool beans, time to cancel my protonvpn subscription 💀

[–] ericatty@infosec.pub 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What are you switching to? Haven't canceled yet because I need my VPN for testing but need to switch very soon.

[–] sgbrain7@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

honestly, idk yet, and I'm still looking for something. I've read good things about PIA, but I'm still not certain.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

When people "turn" conservative the things they say never make sense. It's like they've been slowly turning into a subhuman and something happened to exist right when their mind reached out for an explanation.

I'm a huge fucking racist piece of shit... because David Lynch died! LOOK AT ME!

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This isn’t going “full MAGA”. This isn’t even going half MAGA. Shit, this isn’t even going a little MAGA. He’s very clearly saying he approves of the pick.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What is your dividing line for maga? Does he need to shoot a dog? Explicitly say "fuck brown people"?

The dude has a delusional positive view of trump that is at odds with all objective factual measures of the public information. What else is maga if not that?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If things are so black and white, why the fuck didn’t you people bother showing up to vote? Don’t think we’ve forgotten it was democrats who let the entire fucking nation down and got him elected in the first place.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Who is you people?

Also feels like your argument took a big turn, so im assuming you're a troll.

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[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 48 points 1 day ago (27 children)

This is def not what going full MAGA looks like, lmao. This tame AF.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Delusional ideas tied to cult of personality directly at odds with objective reality. What more do you want to call a spade a spade?

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago
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[–] Mcdolan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So is this an intentional or unintentional get off of proton message? Maybe it's a subtle "we are compromised but warrant Canaries don't work message? Lol..

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 12 hours ago

No, the privacy community is half left wing and half right wing. If anything this will increase their numbers since right wingers always play team sports.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

"Blink twice and post delirious misinformation if you're being held hostage."

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