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[–] molten@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

BREAKING: FDA reverses nicotine agenda after an anonymous donor [Marlboro] makes a massive donation [$150.00] to an unaffiliated foundation [Drumpf fund for the growth of personal liquid assets] in an unforeseen turn of events!

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sooo they will still cause cancer but won't have the good stuff?

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it'll make more people choose smokeless tobacco, which is nowhere near as (but still quite) unhealthy?

But yeah this seems paradoxical, nicotine is the least of your worries if you smoke cigarettes.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nicotine is the chemical that gets you hooked and there is a reason birds in cities have been observed using them to line their nests to protect against mites.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's because nicotine--from whence neonicotinoids are derived--is an excellent insecticide. (Unfortunately neonicotinoids also kill beneficial insects, like pollinators, which is why their industrial usage is such a problem.)

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, wanted someone else to mention that, due to the last time a crazy person came out the woodwork.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I mean not the best argument against nicotine, plants make all kinds of wacky stuff to deter pests that we eat up. Capsaicin, caffeine, etc.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Now people will just smoke more

Edit: after considering the level of reduction I agree with the other commenter who said existing smokers will turn to vaping or pouches.

Also, I browse all mostly and didn't catch the community. I sorry for bringing bad energy here.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's an odd take. Personally, I love nicotine but I rarely smoke because of the health problems. No point in smoking if there's no nicotine.

[–] CetaceanNeeded@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because people who are addicted go for the same hit of nicotine each time, therefore if there is less nicotine in each cigarette they will have to smoke more cigarettes to get their usual hit.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're talking ~95% drop in nicotine. You'd have to smoke 20 cigarettes in the same amount of time to get the same effect. With the price of smokes these days, no smoke options are going to look a lot more attractive.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Idk about that, here in the Netherlands there was a study that showed 50% would still continue smoking if the prices went up to €60 per small pack.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I should have been clear, I was referring only to current smokers.

[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean existing smokers will be more likely to have another since one didn't give them their usual fix.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At a ~95% drop in nicotine, they'd need 20 at the same time to get their fix

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I may have glossed over the numbers. My bad. That's quite the difference. Those who are already addicted are likely to find it elsewhere.

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[–] dditty@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tobacco companies will need to cut nicotine levels to 0.7 milligrams per gram of tobacco, a fraction of the 17.2 milligrams per gram that most cigarette brands have on average.

Damn, that might actually get most smokers to switch to vaping chaw or zyn

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That number doesn’t look right. EU caps it at 1.0 and I’ve never seen a cigarette over 0.8 and those are noticeably rougher than 0.6 which is standard. 17,2 would be crazy even for the US sized portions of things. Haven’t smoked in years but it couldn’t have changed this way.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This site suggests the average cigarette has between 10-12 milligrams of Nicotine, but that the human body only absorbs ~1.2-1.8mg per cigarette smoked

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

I found the same but it’s an order of magnitude difference. My hypothesis is that it could be some metric/imperial conversion error that's being parroted by multiple websites that didn’t spot it because that would require a point of reference.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Thank goodness. It’s about time the Republicans did something good and had to deal with the political fallout instead of relying on Democrats to do everything.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago