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Summary

North Korean soldiers supporting Russia in its war with Ukraine are reportedly using suicide tactics to avoid capture, as seen in a recent incident where a soldier detonated a grenade during a Ukrainian operation.

Ukraine claims North Korea has deployed 11,000 troops, with over 3,000 killed or injured.

Defectors and analysts suggest these soldiers are brainwashed into sacrificing themselves for Kim Jong Un and fear being labeled traitors if captured.

Kyiv has offered to exchange captured North Korean soldiers for Ukrainians held in Russia.

Experts warn this deployment may enhance North Korea's future military capabilities.

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[–] italics2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Off-Topic but feel like it is important to share this: https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/114590-000-A/abgehoert/ (various subtitles are avaible). It is a documentary made mostly of phone calls between Russian soldiers and their families and friends. It is hard to listen and watch, but if you want to really be able to feel what is happening there this is unpararelled.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

unfortunately going to lead to a take no prisoners thing. This is actually what drove the us to use nukes in ww2.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It actually wasn't. The desire to test and demonstrate the effect of the new weapon before the Germans could get it was the main reason.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

We'd already been testing the atomic bomb before the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Also, Germany had already surrendered a couple months before we bombed the Japanese, they were the last hold-out of the war.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Almost like there can be several reasons

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

~~what drive the us to use nukes~~

What gave the us the excuse to use nukes

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The excuse (at least given to the public) was that using the nukes would save the lives of allied soldiers. The Japanese army was more than willing to fight to the death, and Japanese citizens had been brainwashed into believing allied soldiers would rape, torture, and kill them. So in their eyes it was also better to fight the allies if they were able to.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know.

The problem is that they felt the need to bomb two massive cities full of non combatant people instead.

In war though the tradeoff between your own people and theirs always lands on theirs ultimately.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean… the obvious solution if this is actually a prevalent pattern for NK troops is to assume they’re bullshitting when they try to surrender, and just don’t take them prisoner.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And thus commit warcrimes? You don't kill surrenderring people. You don't retaliate when "the others are doing it". You can take measures, but shooting someone who is surrenderring isn't something anyone should strive for.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

🇨🇦👍

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not something that anyone should strive for. but asking your troops to trust someone who is claiming to surrender given the fact (?) that this has happened is asking a lot of them in a life or death situation. No one wins no matter what you choose here, but it's war. That's not exactly surprising.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Which doesn't mean "take no prisoners".

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, everyone’s allowed to just join in, then.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Only if they're helping Russia, if they join in to help Ukraine it's an unspeakable act of aggression and Putin will start threatening to nuke everyone again.

Anyone thought of sponsoring the South Korean army to join Ukraine and see what happens?