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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 112 points 10 months ago (36 children)

Fuck trucks. I remember the Ranger it was barely bigger than a minivan. These things are obscene. People who own them don't need them. Most people don't even need trucks. People like to cosplay that they live up a 25 degree incline of muddy, rocky road. But a subaru would be just fine and IS in most of the world.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I drive a B2300 (the Mazda rebrand of the Ranger) and it kicks ass. I get 7-8L per 100km, when commuting, I've filled it to the tits with dirt, flooring and lumber, and it doesn't take up 2 parking spaces. I would pay an obscene amount to get the same truck but as an EV today. Why the fuck is that not a thing?!?

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago

Best we can do is a behemoth truck that doesn't fit in spots and costs a first born child.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is actually a good point, why are there no small EV trucks?

I bet they exist in China.

[–] rubicon@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

I see lots of Rivians where I live. I'm not about to spend $130k on a small truck though.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Ford Maverick is the size of the old school rangers. I have a hybrid one and love it. Only problem is finding one not marked up sky high.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Ever heard of a Ford Maverick? It's not a "real" truck since it's unibody instead of body-on-frame, but otherwise it's the next best thing to the old Ranger.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

The b23 was a great truck, though.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I remember the Ranger it was barely bigger than a minivan.

I own a Ranger and used to own a Ford Aerostar. I'm pretty sure they were literally built on the same platform. Also, my Ranger is a regular cab short bed, while my Aerostar was the long wheelbase version, so the van was definitely bigger.

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[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I used to have a ~'99 ranger. Loved that thing. Now the closest thing Ford has is the maverick which is not only bigger overall but it has a smaller bed so it's less useful.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

'10 B2300 driver. Why will no one make a real compact pickup instead of a movie theater with a 4 foot box?!?

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[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

I do appreciate Ford has the Maverick now as well.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would love an old Ranger with the extended cab and suicide doors....I hate the new ones are f150 sized. Also the Tacoma structurally is no larger than the original tiny version...it's all puffy body panels. Why can't we ha have small trucks?

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[–] Lodra@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I probably don’t represent most people very well. But my wife and I have a single vehicle, a gmc sierra 1500. We probably use the bed twice a week. Trash/recycling. Moving heavy things around our property. Makes for a great mobile workbench for projects outside. And most often of all, we buy hay and grain for horses. A smaller truck would be a problem for us. We would actually benefit from a larger truck! But I don’t want a bigger gas guzzler. We get great fuel efficiency given the size of the truck.

Edit: I also don’t live in a city. It’s quite rural here

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That, seems like a proper use.

I see many trucks with huge mud tires that they use as a main vehicle to commute to and from work and to run errands. I think these are the target for most people.

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[–] thedevisinthedetails@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Obviously not (yet?) available in the US but other countries have much smaller trucks with larger beds. https://www.kia.com/dm/showroom/K2700-2022/specification.html

That plus a 2200 lb hauling capacity make them a very capable, efficient, and reasonably safe truck.

[–] Lodra@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

Kinda funny how much the styles differ between USA and Europe πŸ™‚. Looks like a great work truck. No space for a car seat in the back though so you would need a separate family vehicle. Which might be practical anyway!

This would satisfy my regular truck needs. But a 2200lb hauling capacity doesn’t work well with horses. A single horse can easily weighs 1200 pounds.

I could see this being great for many people here. But it’s also not a universal fit.

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[–] Godort@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

My first car was a '92 Ranger and it was a great little thing to have at that point in my life. It's really nice to be able to move without needing to worry about how to transport all your stuff to the new place and it was small enough that it still felt like a regular sized car.

The new rangers are pretty ridiculous in comparison.

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[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Interesting it's just trucks that are the problem, and not SUVs as well. Just as large, hell some weigh more.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The spa-burban is a truck.

Is it a 6000lb monster on a truck frame and enjoying the worse/looser safety regs? Then Truck.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most are on a literal "truck" frame. Silverado/suburban for example.

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

That ignores big unibody SUVs. Most that I'm speaking to are not on truck frames. For example https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1720016/ranked-every-unibody-non-luxury-three-row-crossover/

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

They are part of the problem too.

They're also literally a truck with a roof over the bed.

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[–] willybe@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What is the point of a truck you cannot fit a 2x4 in the back?

[–] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 22 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Satiates societally ingrained Petro-Masculinity for patriarchal men who are insecure about their status as a man in the modern age.

[–] willybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Petro-masculinity is a brilliant term.

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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Ya it is ridiculously hard to find a used truck with even a 6.5ft bed, people simply don't order them. Single cab long bed 4x4 is cream of the crop but they barely even exist

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