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    [–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 points 11 minutes ago

    I feel like I need to learn VIM at some point because various system tools have a habit of using it. (rpmrebuild and the man pages come to mind) It just comes up here and there even if you don't care for it.

    [–] flamingos@feddit.uk 79 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    If Vim is so good, then why can't you browse Lemmy from it?

    This meme was made by the Emacs gang.

    [–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Because unlike emacs gang, we don’t need to build an OS to browse Lemmy.

    How bout you go back and let your friends know that if they’re in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)

    [–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Vim needs are met by using Evil-Mode. You don't have to leave Emacs for this.

    [–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago

    As a poke at Emacs' creeping featurism, vi advocates have been known to describe Emacs as "a great operating system, lacking only a decent editor".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war

    :P

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    [–] flamingos@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    How bout you go back and let your friends know that if they’re in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)

    If my friends wanted a good editor, then I wouldn't recommend a Vimitor, I'd recommend ed, the standard text EDitor :p

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    [–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 86 points 2 days ago (3 children)
    [–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    The full name is VScodium. https://vscodium.com/

    Codium is a genus of edible green macroalgae.

    [–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    That sounds tasty, where do I buy it?

    [–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

    South Korea is the leading consumer and producer of farmed Codium (commonly known as cheonggak)

    Search for that.

    [–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

    Ooooh thank you for reminding me I need to make this switch

    [–] toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

    Hadn't heard of this, but I'm going to switch now!

    [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    My professor was always trying to get us to use vim or eMacs over an IDE to write our C programs. I’m sorry, I like using a mouse. I know, I know, blasphemy. I’m taking a shortcut. I’m a noob.

    When I absolutely have to, I go for vim, mostly because I know a few of the key bindings for it, but otherwise avoid it.

    [–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I’m taking a shortcut

    more like a longcut. I save so much time and effort not having to switch my right hand between the mouse and keyboard constantly

    [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I keep my hands on my laptop and use my thumb on the track pad. My hands don’t leave the keyboard. I actually never use extra mice or extra keyboards.

    [–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    track pad

    it's okay, we're gonna make a plan and get you to safety. Pretend you're ordering a pizza. How many people are currently holding you captive?

    [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago
    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)
    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile, James rocks up with Notepad++

    [–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    smh real programmers use magnetized needles on tape

    [–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago
    [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

    The Fiat Panda of text editors

    [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

    I always edit my code in microsoft word. Not only can it highlight syntax, it can use different fonts for different function names.

    Definitely the most fully featured IDE I’ve ever used.

    [–] udon@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    tbh, one of the essential things vim gets right for me is that it's designed as a text editor, not (only) a code editor. I use it for so much non-code text as well, but it feels weird opening a coding tool for such things.

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    [–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)
    [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 days ago

    I use neovim btw

    [–] r00ty@kbin.life 12 points 2 days ago

    I use vim, aliased to vi, on Arch btw.

    [–] muse@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    That can't be right, the red car has a service manual and too many functioning assemblies for it to be VS.

    [–] vala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    I just really can't stand lua

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I don't mind Vim, it reminds me of my years using EDT on Vax/VMS systems in the 80s and 90s. My fingers knew all the function keys so well, the UI was almost invisible. But more recent years of using Windows because of work have ingrained VS and VSCode the same way, and I like the feel of the mouse.

    [–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I plan on moving to a nice Neovim setup eventually, but VSCodium is so convenient out of the box for a baby developer like me.

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    [–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (10 children)

    Have been a professional software engineer for 8 years now. Have yet to find a reason to use vim for anything (other than availability of course, but if nano isn't installed for some godforsaken reason I have other problems lol).

    [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    I've been in various forms of coding and administration for around fifteen years now. Despite trying lots of editors, I have yet to find a reason to use anything but vim.

    I do like obsidian for note taking.

    edit: Removed typo.

    [–] chellomere@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

    Professional software engineer here, using vim as my primary editor.

    [–] AntY@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

    Vim is a way more competent editor than nano. If you spend a lot of time editing files via ssh, vim is amazing. And when you get bitten by it, you’re infected. ;-)

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    [–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

    laughs in Emacs

    [–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago

    I feel like I’m the only person using KDevelop

    [–] karmiclychee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

    Sublime gang rise up 😭

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

    I like VScodium and VIM although I have also been using Kate and nano as of late.

    [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I would argue that vim is fantastic for a lot of editing and coding tasks, just not all of them.

    Where it utterly fails is with deep trees of files in codebases, like you see in Java or some Javascript/Typescript apps. Even with a robust suite of add-ons, you wind up backing into full-bore IDE territory to manage that much filesystem complexity. Only difference is that navigating and managing a large file tree w/o a mouse is kind of torture.

    [–] ivn@jlai.lu 11 points 2 days ago

    Fuzzy finding really shine for this use case, no need for a mouse.

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    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

    It always surprises me how complicated some of the editor tooling sounds in threads like this. Obviously once you learn how to use these things they are powerful, but how do people have the patience to deal with all of that in the beginning? This is coming from a guy who writes scripts constantly to avoid doing tedious, error-prone things.

    Also I keep seeing people say vscode is slow. One of the reasons I switched to it is that it's insanely fast compared to other editors I used (even those with far-inferior featuresets) 🤷‍♂️

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