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I hate when people say that they'll only move when it has 100% support

People who say 'cant wait for steamOS to come out so that I can move to it' is also very similar

They never will try Linux, even if what they want comes true

They won't do it, whether they just fear change or think it'll break stuff or they can't bother

And I'm not going to lie, I don't hate them or debate with them for it, I just hate the bold lies they tell just to get with the crowd

"Fuck you Microsoft, I'm moving to Linux" says the individual that would never move if they haven't already

Frankly, I probably wouldn't move either if Windows didn't permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers, and reinstalling windows wasn't harder than installing Linux, fucking hell

Either way, these people kick up hype for a Linux that will be so much bigger but they never arrive

Maybe they will, due in fucking 2028 or something when they invent a really easy way to use built in Linux tools to move your files from NTFS to Linux and then when you launch steam you have a perfect library of Linux compatible games that are as good or better than windows

And don't lie, even now with 80% compatibility it feels more like 60%, whether because it depends on the system one runs or because the performance drops just make it not worth it...

At least don't lie that you'll move to Linux at a goal post that you'll just move whenever you get close, maybe say that you'll move to Linux when you finally get a new pc with a new disk or something?

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[–] Peasley@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Windows doesn't run every game i want. I couldn't get the first Command and Conquer to be playable at all. I have had the same experience many times with older strategy and simulation games: they just don't work very well on modern Windows.

By contrast, so far Linux does play every game i want. My entire library going back decades works just fine with Wine or Proton. It's easy once you get used to using a translation layer.

I don't play Apex, League, or Fortnite, so that's probably why i dont feel like i'm missing anything on Linux.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If the game doesn't run on Linux, there's a good chance it's using a rootkit and should not be installed on windows either.

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago

If push comes to shove you can still try to run it using virtualization

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 21 hours ago

And/or that it's coded badly. So I double don't want it.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The game Smalland crashes Linux so hard, and I am tired of trying every possible launch option command and suggestion to get it running. I don’t know if it uses a root kit but it does something that causes the whole desktop to freeze.

[–] JustVik@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Smalland

On protondb it has Platinum status https://www.protondb.com/app/768200/. It should work atleast with steam and proton. If I'm not mistaken.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I thought so too, which is why I got it, but I have tried every suggestion in the protondb site and the steam forums and only got it to load the game one time before crashing the whole system, and this is running fedora 41, it freezes everything as soon as it loads. I’m sure I could check logs and prob try it again currently as I see proton-ge was recently updated, but I just moved on to a better game.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I know absolutely nothing about this game, and this comment might even come off as patronizing because of course you tried this... But if this is a game that has a Linux runtime, then Steam is going to default to that. In my experience, running the Windows version through Proton often works better... So I would double check that you're using proton in the "compatibility" page in the per-game settings.

Also, if you haven't yet, I'd try Proton-GE as that will sometimes work while regular Proton doesn't.

Probably just a waste of time, but just in case you hadn't tried yet.

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[–] JustVik@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Then I'm sorry about your experience. Maybe it has something to do with the versions of programs/libraries specifically on Fedor's distribution. If I have the opportunity, I could try to run this game, but I have Arch linux.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Hey thanks for your concern, I have been thinking of other distros but so far everything has been running fine on Fedora, if it comes about that a game I really enjoy becomes unplayable then I will start checking out Arch.

[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago

I kept saying once upon a time"I'll make the switch to Linux but X doesn't work, so not yet. "

I dual booted for a while. That "a while" ended when Windows ate GRUB.

I had enough. I decided enough was enough. I kept windows on one SSD, just in case I wanted to go back. That didn't last long, I wiped that drive, and formatted it to BTRFS. Now none of my drives are NTFS.

For the one case I "need" Windows, I spun up a VM (and configured USB passthrough) for Windows. That is for a guitar pedal and amp that I need Windows for updates. But I don't remember the last time I booted up that VM.

For music recording and production I installed Reaper for Linux natively, but that was an easy transition considering Reaper was what i used in Windows. Sure VSTs were a big concern for me, so I investigated VST bridge type software. And I can't recall the ones I investigated. But this is where I am at on my journey.


I don't care how "easy" it is to just stay the same and keep using Windows, it isn't for me. I don't agree with their data collection policies. I don't agree with the "black box" mentality. I want to know what is happening on my system. I want to understand what I am using. And at a certain point with Windows, I just don't have the ability, tools, or inside scoop to fully learn that.

With Linux, the journey may have taken time, effort, and willingness to troubleshoot and learn but it ultimately is a better experience.


There have been very few games I couldn't get working on my system, but those games aren't enough to sell out my ideals. I will never go back.

I would rather be a farmer.

[–] jh29a@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
  1. don't play any games on windows
  2. move
  3. only play like 2 games, still haven't downloaded Steam
[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I'm having ca 20 servers at home and the majority of those are linux. I love it. My main rig is still windows and will probably stay that way unless win12 won't finally cure what pisses me off so damn much with 11. They won't, obviously. But migration would be very hard. Most of my tools won't run, most of my self made tools won't run, most of my games won't run, most 4 decades of internalization of shortcuts won't cut it short anymore. And I won't even start with the domain migration horrors as this one's still MS. I would end up dual booting for eternity until I stop booting up one of the two.

So..my point is. I use the right tool for the right job.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hate when people say that they'll only move when it has 100% support

Why do you give a shit what os others use?

[–] geoma@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because of bandwagon effect. The more people use linux, then even more will. And itll get more support from software and hardware developers. And the world will be more free, safe, and not controlled by a big corp.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

There's precisely one reason I care, to increase compatibility with linux.

Once anticheat works perfectly on linux, I'll completely stop caring what other people do. Everything else will come with time.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Frankly I started to hold Linux like it was a religion, but beyond that admission it's not that I care about them but them constantly saying shit like so which they know they don't actually believe in or will do

Imagine advocating for a protest just for you to not even show up

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I've been playing with linux since the mid 90s. I have it on majority of my devices, but my main is still running windows 10. Exactly because it doesn't run everything I need 100%, nor do I enjoy spending hours trying to get things to work anymore.

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[–] imnapr@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Im ngl, I feel like its posts like these that make people dislike Linux users. Expecting every game that you own to run perfectly isn't some insane requirement, its totally reasonable lol. I get that its kinda frustrating people won't ever switch, but lets be real, the only way Linux is actually going to gain new users is by having it come pre-installed on devices. Look at the increased Linux use because it's the default OS on the steamdeck. It just needs to be the default on more devices, and be solid enough that people don't even notice they're not on Windows. The amount of people who will actually go out of there way to switch their OS is so negligible it may as well not even count. So who cares about these people who will never switch, because they probably won't matter much in the end anyway.

--And I say this as someone who has been on Linux full time for a little over a year now.

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 21 hours ago

Lol, most games I own don't run on windows without substantial tweaks and compatibility patches. Even then often games are buggy.

A game with texture issues on windows is badly made, a game with texture issues on linux is a game that doesn't run properly on linux /shrug

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 21 hours ago

it is insane, because it doesn't even fucking apply to any version of windows, it's bog standard for older windows games to just shit themselves in various ways.

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

"I want to be able to use my expensive hardware for the reason I purchased it in the first place" seems like a pretty solid argument to me.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Frankly, I probably wouldn't move either if Windows didn't permanently break my ethernet and WiFi drivers

I think this might be colouring your expectations a bit, and you might be projecting your experiences on to others.

I've said for years that it was gaming that was holding me back from running Linux full time. I don't do a huge amount of gaming, but it is important to me, so for many years it was a deal breaker.

Now, gaming is good enough, even though it's not perfect, and I moved to linux full time around 9 months ago.

People aren't "lying". They just have different priorities to you...

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[–] waspentalive@lemmy.one 14 points 1 day ago

I refuse to let gaming preferences dictate my choice of operating system. I choose my OS first—Linux—because I demand full ownership of my computing environment. If an entity can extract data without your knowledge or control updates, shutdowns, or reboots against your will, they own your machine—not you. With Linux, I own my system entirely. I decide when updates happen, I control what data—if any—leaves my computer, and nothing happens without my explicit consent. My computer works for me, not someone else.

[–] land@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Switching from Windows to Linux was a refreshing experience. I’ve never encountered any problems running Windows games on Linux.

The only thing I miss is ShareX.

[–] _carmin@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

If you are on KDE, Spectacle is top and can do everything even recording.

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[–] Grunt4019@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Check out flameshot, not quite the same but still very good.

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I mean moving from linux now is a bit like moving from reddit back when they screwed with the api. I don't care really if other people do but its long past due that I move along. Should have done it years ago.

[–] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

It's mainly Linux enthusiasts who evangelize other people to use it. So if others don't want to move to Linux, let them be.

[–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I feel the someway about people who say "I'm moving to Linux after W10 support ends".

I think it takes one of two things for people to move.

  1. Linux has to have several features that are unavailable on Windows that makes it worth swapping.
  2. Windows has to do something so egregious that they no longer consider it viable.

In my case, I swapped back 3 years ago when ads appeared in explorer for a preview version. In combination with the work the community had done for Valve to consider the steam deck worth selling with Linux, I was confident enough that I could have a good enough experience with Linux.

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