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[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So does proton(mail). Don’t be fooled.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983

They dont get to choose if they hand over data. If they dont do it voluntarily, they just get raided. Also handing data to any EU police means that the US will get that info too.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Do you have any suggestions of an email service provider that is more respectful of privacy than proton? Or is this just the dystopia we live in where no data is private...

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Proton is 100% respectful of user’s privacy. So is Tutanota and all others service providers that advertise about privacy as a main objective. Nevertheless : at the end of the day they do need to comply with law enforcement. Don’t be fooled by a false sense of privacy if you are crossing the line, for everything else you’re perfectly fine with proton, tutanota and alike.

Signal also hands over user data if they get a warrent by the goverment, its just that Signal only collects data when the account was created and last active iirc (useless data). Im not saying Proton is perfect but similar with Proton, they can only hand over data they activly collect, so things like payment methods, recovery email, phonenumber.. etc. The case with this climate activist, was they had a recovery email given to proton and thats the data that unmasked them. And as someone said, if they wouldnt comply they would just get raided.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Thank you. I suppose you're right. My imagination tends to spiral. How much longer until thinking the wrong thoughts becomes a matter of law enforcement.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I mean you can just encrypt your emails. Then they at least cant read the contents of your conversations. But the only way to prevent your metadata from being yoinked is p2p messaging like briar. Using a server thats not controlled by you will always leave traces.

[–] obscur_e@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

oh no, anyway