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Special counsel Jack Smith is finalizing a two-volume report on his investigations into Donald Trump, covering Trump’s handling of classified documents and efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

At least one volume may be released as early as Friday, despite objections from Trump’s lawyers, who argue the release is politically motivated and unconstitutional.

Trump’s classified documents case was dismissed, and both cases were dropped after his presidential win.

The Justice Department has not confirmed whether both volumes will be released simultaneously.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 65 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So what? He won't suffer any consequences and he's immune to shaming.

[–] Electricblush@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, its frustrating as heck how all this is going down.

But releasing something that can be preserved and saved in archives all over the world is better then all records and documents just disappearing.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It will be released. But it will be 200 pages long, with approximately ten total pages worth of sentences not redacted. The only parts not redacted will be things already part of the public record.

This is still Merrick Garland's DoJ. It doesn't seek to actively do evil; it's not Trump's DoJ. But it does put defense of the powerful above any kind of justice. For Garland, protecting the powerful comes first; justice comes second.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

And still nothing will come of it. It’s like everyone forgot the gulf of Tonkin or the Panama papers ever happened. Because nothing actually came of it and it will never matter.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

No, fuck that. The record should be made public and preserved for posterity.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trumps pretty vengeful. He might suffer consequences.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Came here to say the exact same thing

[–] nailingjello@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What a fucking joke this country has become.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Someone called the US a third world country with nuclear carriers, and, yeah, pretty much. There's so much wealth in this country, there's honestly no reason anyone should be struggling to get by, no reason people should need 80 hours a week just to tread water. We've designed our society to achieve its goals in the most wasteful, tortured fashion possible in nearly every case and painted it as a good thing. If we were a car, we'd be a lifted F350 super cab (small bed) powered by Flintstone engines, laughing at all the people riding past us on bikes and saying "thank God we're not so backwards as them". I think the death of the Soviet Union was maybe the worst thing that could have ever happened to the US, and the cold war liquidation sale has almost finished.

The bright side is that now that we've laid bare that all those years of pretentious finger wagging about the constitution was just a bunch of horseshit (my boy Montesquieu knows what's up), there's really nothing stopping us from a leftist revolution with teeth instead of Nazis with teeth. I'm not a fan of auths, but if I've got to pick one (and it's looking that way), I'll take commies over Nazis 10/10 times.

[–] RememberLizards@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

It still blows my mind. Of all people Trump was the guy the right pledged their loyalty to.

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

LOL, of course it is. The emperor will remain naked.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dismissed, but not with prejudice as I recall so it's still possible to take the findings and bring a case again for the same charges. If they're released now at least it makes it more difficult for them to get 'lost' by the incoming DOJ and could be used in the future.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

bring a case again for the same charges

Trump will be 82 when the possibility of bringing this back up presents itself. And then he and his lawyers will drag it out for years, and then he'll be dead or so old that he'll be alllowed to spend the sentence at home. Meanwhile, the damage he's about to unleash will be done and generations of Americans will suffer from the consequences.

The time to throw Trump behind bars was before the elections, not after. Anything anyone does now is utterly pointless.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Theoretically, Trump could be impeached if the findings are particularly damning. It's not at all likely with the current composition of Congress, but there is another election in 2026. Provided with enough outrage, Democrats could....

Sorry I just passed out from a copium overdose.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps so, but with the way our system holds onto precedent for reference in the future even a pointless conviction saying the president doesn't have absolute immunity is important to the future. That could be pointed to the next time a Trump-esq sort comes in and starts such BS and used in a new trial or impeachment.

Basically, even if it doesn't do anything to him personally, it could set a guardrail for future years.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

guardrail for future years

But only for a few years. Case in point: neo-Nazis in Germany and genocidal Israeli. If anybody should have stainless steel, bomb-proof guardrails, it's those two. And yet...

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Anything anyone does now is utterly pointless.

Well... Anything that Lemmy's ToS allows us to talk about, at least.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cool, Jack. Super helpful now.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There was a lot of corruption involved in that trial. Jack Smith was clearly not part of it.

He petitioned against every questionable move Cannon made. Cannon just held all the cards.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

It's a fucked up system that Cannon could hold all the cards. The Maggot era has shown how wildly corrupt and immune to oversight our judges are. I'm certain they've been doing monstrous things all along (several judges come to mind) but watching this all take place under the national spotlight has been eye opening.

[–] Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

The way it seems, this will never see the light of day unless it is leaked. Emperor Trump will use his favorite tactic and delay it somehow.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Mueller report 2.0. Wake me up if anything actually happens.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He'll probably wait until a court says he can't.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s already been blocked by unqualified judge and Trump loyalist (constitutional traitor) Aileen Cannon.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

She's something else

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

Absolutely, I'm expecting the injunction tomorrow.