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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The fact that its main 2 gimmicks are a shitty ad blocker and integrated cryptocurrency should be enough of a red flag, honestly. Just use Firefox, people!

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Firefox is significantly slower though...

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Not really that significant when you're using it, I promise. I'm usually all for speed, but FF has better functionality than the competition.

[–] Warfarin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

No fuck Mozilla

[–] 68silver@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Brave is great and i will continue to use it.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been trying out the DuckDuckGo browser lately on mobile. It uses the Chromium backend, so some sites work better in it than in my normal Firefox.

The neatest feature of the browser is the ability to generate random email addresses in signup forms, and those emails all get forwarded to your real email address. As it forwards the emails, it removes trackers from them. You can click a link in one of the forwarded emails to disable that address from being forwarded any more if it gets spammy.

[–] Umbrella8335@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

my only issue with ddg was on mac it uses the safari engine and doesn't integrate very well with bitwarden

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use brave as it really blocks the things from foking meta, and goo gel, even if i think javascript is a warcrime against human kind, and against IT, and its created by eich

[–] skeddles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

A pile of shit, just like most of the other script languages

[–] owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I can't think of a reason why anyone would use a browser other than Firefox and its forks.

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[–] MrPloppy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've read the article via Firefox, with NoScript enabled. Am I doing this right?

[–] Warfarin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

No

Fuck Mozilla too

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

That has nothing to do with the software. And that's a tiny donation. I'm not going to stop using an excellent tool because one of the guys in charge is a bigot. If that were the case, I wouldn't be able to eat, drink, breathe, make a phone call, or do anything really. There's a lot of people out there. Some of them are bigots. We should work to reduce their influence but we can't boycott literally everything. Every alternative to Brave has at least one bigot involved in it, I guarantee it.

Brave’s replacement for ads doesn’t reward users in a meaningful amount

Not enough > 0, which is what you get without adblock. And I'm fine with occasional non-targeted and unobtrusive ads to help fund a service I use.

Brave’s BAT was built around the cryptocurrency ecosystem

Who gives a shit except crypto bros? And who gives a shit about crypto bros anyway?

Brave was also caught up in a privacy scandal in 2020, when it was revealed that the browser was adding affiliate codes to some URLs typed into the address bar.

Are these affiliate codes tracking you? No? Who gives a shit? It's more money for Brave, same webpage for you.

That should have been enough to swear off Brave as a privacy-centric browser forever, considering the entire point of affiliate links is to collect data about the user and traffic source. For example, when you click an Amazon affiliate link in a web article, the publisher can see the exact products you purchase in the timeframe the tracking cookie remains active

Brave blocks cookies by default. Unless they specifically made an exception in their own browser for these codes, then this carefully-worded paragraph is just bullshit.

Much like the rest of this article. Bunch of poo-flinging. "Brave is involved in crypto, here's all the bad things crypto has done, that's why you shouldn't use Brave". Stupid guilt by association and a lot of hot air. Bringing a smoke machine to make people think there's fire.

There's a lot of effort going into making Brave seem like a bad browser and I don't know why.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

I want to try a thought experiment. Imagine that you observe this comment in reaction to the above:

I just don’t get why the author is so pissed about their political contributions. Guess what, people who are involved in big business are usually right-wing and support right-wing organizations. Shocking. Who could have known. I don’t even want to imagine how the author comes to the conclusion that this is some big conspiracy but I think we all know what political spectrum that guy belongs to.

What I just wrote is a mirror-image version of the top rated comment on that article from a few days ago about the Mozilla foundation funding left-wing organizations. Do you agree with one of those statements and not the other? If so, why?

It is one-sided to say that someone involved in Brave should only be "allowed" to do so if he doesn't support anything conservative. Just as would be one-sided and wrong to say that Mozilla shouldn't be "allowed" to support left-wing organizations. Flipping it around, and looking at the reaction when it's the other way around, is an easy way to analyze your own internal reactions on it.

(Generally, I'm in agreement with the idea that you shouldn't use Brave because of all these other shady things; just this one part jumped out at me as one thing that's not like the others.)

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[–] Jesus@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Who cares? As liberal I'm sick of the mellow-dramatic outrage culture. People aren't perfect. Who knew? If you don't use brave what's the alternative? Google, who is much worse? Maybe "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" and stop using the lefts social capital to alien people over small personal gripes.

I notice people who write these types of articles never open themselves to the same sort of scrutiny.

[–] Usanam@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] tengkuizdihar@discuss.online -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Vivaldi? Trusting a closed sourced application for privacy? What?

Not even defending brave here, just weird that the author say that.

[–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never understand why people prefer Vivaldi over, let's say, Chrome. I personally use FF with hardened security, but if I had no chance, I'd rather give my data to Google, not a browser company with an unknown business model and bloat.

Vivaldi is weird, I once talked with their CEO over on Mastodon (they are active there, which is a good sign, probably), it still felt shady, sadly.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll keep using it, thank you for your concerns. At least I'm not giving market share to FF/Gecko/Mozilla.

[–] timespace@lemmy.ninja 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First time I’ve ever seen someone say something negative about FF/Mozilla. Care to expand?

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Let's say I just dislike them as an org/com and I don't like the shit they have made FF into. After being a FF since the beginning (it still was Phoenix, back then). Nowadays FF sole selling point is the existence of uBlock Origin (which isn't even a Mozilla product) and the Chromium-dominance fear-mongering. Every other browsers just works better, faster, has a better U (I refuse to waste my time untucking it using Class) and is more suited to my workflow. Moreover, I sincerely think that Mozilla is at best useless, at worst just a cash grab and a shady org. The fact that the CEO paycheck almost matches all the donations they receive (from clueless people thinking that they're funding FF development) and that it keeps growing despite FF the decreasing market share should be more than enough for everyone to reconsider Mozilla's ethics:

  1. https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla

  2. https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/yy986k/can_someone_explain_why_mozillas_ceo_salary/

  3. https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html

Plus, frankly speaking, I'm fed up of being schooled by YouTube-addictes with a Gmail account and that buy crap on Amazon that my browser choice is "wrong" because potato.

That said, I'll put my grain of sand to make Mozilla and their shitty circle jerk community (even more) irrelevant, whenever I can. I profoundly regret having been part of that community for almost 20 years.

This is going be my last comment in this useless thread. I'm not interested in debating a d I'll ignore further replies. I have just answered your question.

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