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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (22 children)
[–] Nothingwise@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Firefox + uBlock Origin + arkenfox user.js gives you privacy, security and anti-tracking. The only way to fly IMO.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And a Pi Hole for good measure.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A dns blocker cannot do anything more than ublock. It is nice for other apps though.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

A DNS blocker is great for other devices on your network!

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

White list firewall. Because this is the real reason everyone has a right to ad block. Ads are hidden links to other websites. It's like walking through a gauntlet of pick pockets bribing the credit card company just to make it to the checkout at your local grocery store, or some asshole you invite into your home that goes to the bathroom, opens a window, and lets a dozen random people in your home if they pay a dollar for the access. The entire system is based on stalking people. It is criminal.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact that their founder wants to ban gay marriage is enough reason for me to avoid it like the plague.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Brave is a marching band of red flags. It claims privacy while injecting ads, affiliate codes and crypto into the browser. It's kind of sad to see someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side and pretend this is all fine. It isn't.

Best advice I could give for anyone who wants privacy is use Firefox or a branch of it. Firefox is out of the box the most privacy conscious mainstream browser and add-ons make it more so. If you want absolute privacy you could even use a derivative like Tor Browser.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Louis Rossmann also recommended Brave in one of his videos. Quite sad.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like a fair amount of his videos but he has a big ole bag of bad takes

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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The ceo is a bigoted asshole, Brave is chromium, it was initially funded by Peter Thiel and they're literally just trying to make their own adsense network.

The self-proclaimed privacy focused browser is tracking your browsing and want to serve you personalized ads, and I think they want to use that tracking data for AI training as well, meaning other people can potentially access it.

And lets not forget about their crypto currency that you can earn by turning on special ads. Which they seemingly unironically called it "Basic Attent Tokens"..

TL;DR: The company is basically a sham company trying to usher in a dystopia. Where you'll get paid for staring at ads, while having all your data stolen and sold back to you.

[–] sic_1@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I see no reason to use any other browser than Firefox and maybe Librewolf.

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[–] rog@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I dont know why anyone would leave chrome and land on something like brave.

If youre ditching chrome, which you should, go to an actual different browser and use Firefox.

[–] hayes_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal anecdote:

When I initially decided to drop Chrome, I moved to Brave because - as a chromium-based browser - it supported the same set of extensions I’d grown accustomed to.

That being said, the crypto stuff weirded me out enough that, once I’d weaned myself off the extensions, I switched to Firefox.

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[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Streaming services seem to lower bitrate when I’m using Firefox vs Brave, so Brave is my go to for streaming.

I use Firefox for everything else.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Chromium has metric shit tons of work done that seems to perform great. What I would love to see is for Mozilla to fork Chromium, staff it with enough people to maintain it, add/remove the features they feel are appropriate/inappropriate, and thus reuse the tons of free work Google and others have already done. As a software engineer, I don't buy the argument that it's easier to correctly implement every new web feature anew than maintaining a fork. Every large org that ships anything based on Android for example maintains a fork of an even bigger codebase. It's not as complicated as people make it out to be. It's not a new problem and there are strategies to manage it. If Mozilla does this, they'll be able to play an active role in steering by far the biggest rendering engine's direction, instead of playing opposition with no stake in it. Now downvote away! 😄

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[–] stooovie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have absolutely no idea how Brave got the reputation it has. It's business model is disgusting and extortionate, it's like paying for warez. Been clear as day since day one.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

Besides this I cannot find another good reason not to use brave. Nobody point to a specific line of code that ruins privacy, not enough reasons.

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Today I learned that people take it VERY PERSONALLY when you criticize their chosen browser. 😂

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

Damn didnt know it was that bad.

They also lack any documentation about how to use their policies on Linux (where you can disable all the bloat). But it should be doable, I will give it another try.

Is the browser even FOSS? Can you compile a working version yourself?

I do that with Firefox and it is really cool.

[–] AlbinJose6723@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 month ago

Brave sucks!

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

At one point they were scummy enough to automatically add their referral codes to any Amazon link you see. Lots of people today still mindlessly recommend Brave, and that's what's wrong in general with the "but the UX is so nice" mentality.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lots of people today still mindlessly recommend Brave

It starts to feel astroturfed at a certain point. The last week or so has been crazy.

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[–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, there are the ame stuff about Firefox too. Mozilla Foundation is such a corrupt organization with extreme shady finances.

Foundation's main income is royalties by google: 567M per year.

Donations: 7M (which almost goes to the CEO's bonuses)

the CEO gets 700K salary and 4.6M bonuses. Lmao.

I'd suggest, using Firefox but not donating to them.

[–] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

I come from the future, now CEO's salary is almost 9M.

[–] Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I agree that you shouldn't use Brave browser cause of things they've done in the past but, oh Jesus, that article is so stupid it reminds me the Hogwarts Legacy boycott.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So the CEO is a raging alt-righter. Glad I never used his product then.

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[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

urghhhhh but firefox just doesn't perform as well. i tried, i really did. i found a 15 year old (!!) bug affecting svg drawing performance that was fucking up a page i was working on, i'm not imagining it.

I'm not sure if it's the same one but i just found a similar bug with a five year old comment saying i guess we're not fixing it anytime soon... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483868

I do have it installed and check in occasionally but it feels like a downgrade when i try to use it as a daily driver.

is there any way to get a functional de-googled chromium build with settings sync across devices?

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[–] NorthCountryHermit@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

These browser wars are funny. It's not like you have a real choice anyways. You get either some sort of Chrome, with it's various problems. Or you get some sort of Firefox... which has it's own host of issues. The rest of the competition is so far behind that it'd take a miracle for them to enter the mainstream.

Shilling for any particular browser is pathetic.

[–] barberousse@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Long time Brave user here. This made me uninstall Brave and move to Firefox. Thank you !

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