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[–] NorthCountryHermit@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

These browser wars are funny. It's not like you have a real choice anyways. You get either some sort of Chrome, with it's various problems. Or you get some sort of Firefox... which has it's own host of issues. The rest of the competition is so far behind that it'd take a miracle for them to enter the mainstream.

Shilling for any particular browser is pathetic.

[–] CafecitoHippo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, fuck this guy.

First, I have been online for almost 30 years. I’ve led an open source project for 14 years. I speak regularly at conferences around the world, and socialize with members of the Mozilla, JavaScript, and other web developer communities. I challenge anyone to cite an incident where I displayed hatred, or ever treated someone less than respectfully because of group affinity or individual identity.

So I hid my hatred from everyone for 30 years successfully. Now that everyone finds out that I donated to a cause to strip them of rights everyone wants to say I'm hateful? Give me one example where I displayed hatred....how about the time you donated to strip people of their rights? That might be a big one for me.

[–] dexahtm@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I thought it was nice that maybe a private browser would be mainstream but then on second thought.... Something icky must be going on if it's mainstream, i mean the whole crypto part was an instant warning for me. Proud Librewolf user over here!!!

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 1 points 8 months ago

I thought this would bring up serious issues with the browser but it's just...the creator doesn't support gay marriage, the browser isn't an adblock hardliner, and it has built-in crypto support?

lollllllll

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2069436850145993

50 States, 50 Protests, 1day

Feb 5 @ your downtown.

[–] Darioirad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

But how can i replace the built in function of youtube playing music on mobile in the background? Please give me an alternative

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[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago
[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It's because he donated $1,000 in support of California's Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California's state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

I want to try a thought experiment. Imagine that you observe this comment in reaction to the above:

I just don’t get why the author is so pissed about their political contributions. Guess what, people who are involved in big business are usually right-wing and support right-wing organizations. Shocking. Who could have known. I don’t even want to imagine how the author comes to the conclusion that this is some big conspiracy but I think we all know what political spectrum that guy belongs to.

What I just wrote is a mirror-image version of the top rated comment on that article from a few days ago about the Mozilla foundation funding left-wing organizations. Do you agree with one of those statements and not the other? If so, why?

It is one-sided to say that someone involved in Brave should only be "allowed" to do so if he doesn't support anything conservative. Just as would be one-sided and wrong to say that Mozilla shouldn't be "allowed" to support left-wing organizations. Flipping it around, and looking at the reaction when it's the other way around, is an easy way to analyze your own internal reactions on it.

(Generally, I'm in agreement with the idea that you shouldn't use Brave because of all these other shady things; just this one part jumped out at me as one thing that's not like the others.)

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's one-sided. Prop 8 was stupid and CA rightfully rejected that shit later.

It's good to be one-sided against stupid shit that is a crime against humanity. Gay marriage is now legal federally. Same as interracial marriage. Nazis got beat the fuck up in WW2. Slavery is over. Deal with it.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The two sides are not morally equal. Prop 8 was an awful, bigoted stain on California's history and he was unrepentant. I am glad he no longer is at Firefox. And Brave is a sketchy company that makes clear it was a good decision to give him the boot. I can support companies with moral stances I agree with and not support companies that do bad things.

[–] Shikadi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Right wing is the one that actively and openly hurts people, so yeah I do see a difference tbh

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[–] themarty27@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Supporting politicians you like and supporting basic human rights being taken away on the basis of completely arbitrary factors outside one's control are two very different things.

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[–] ventrix@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Very good observation. The issue being, the way I see it, he supported a generally accepted hateful conservative rhetoric. Most left wing organizations do not promote hateful rhetorics.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The fact that you would consider your counterfactual a mirror image is itself problematic.

In the case of the Foundation, it supports exactly what it purports to support. They’re like the EFF and other civil rights organizations. If you consider the EFF left wing, I think that says a bit more about where you stand.

The original article was outrage-bate blog spam, with random Capitalized Words and the prolific use of “scare quotes.” It doesn’t even say anything. No charges of misinformation. No citation of law. Just “They have a Billion Dollars!!” kinds of sentences.

On the other hand, the CEO of a company - particularly a small company - lends his personality to the company. It often makes sense to co-identify them, given that the CEO has an incredible amount of influence.

So if you are saying that libertarian software project : libertarian institutions :: conservative ideas : homophobic legislation, I guess you’re just really endorsing the position of judging the company by the politicians and politics it supports. If you see prop 8 as being as fundamental to the conservative position as internet freedom is to an organization specifically dedicated to preserving internet freedom, all I can say is that I hope more people start to see it that way.

[–] owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I can't think of a reason why anyone would use a browser other than Firefox and its forks.

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[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've read the article via Firefox, with NoScript enabled. Am I doing this right?

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