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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oooooh scrary chemicals 👻👻👻 every chemical bad because I don't know anything

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I had this conversation with someone recently and while it is dumbest possible expression of this, I think that at the end of the day it is an expression of people knowing that they can't trust companies not to poison them and they can't trust the government to effectively regulate or enforce.

So yes some industrial/food processes are good (pasteurization being the most painfully obvious one) but people have every reason to be suspicious of what is being added to food.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right, but the rheroric is how scary chemicals are and always stuff like "I can't say this ingredient it must be bad!"

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

If folks like that only knew what happens to make flour white

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

flattened-bernie yes Mr Kennedy, I'll drink the raw milk

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Didn't have Bernie going on a raw meat diet on my bingo card. But it is super early in 2025.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

Due to stress and inadequate healthcare - working people live far shorter lives than the rich so I'm voting for the nutjob brain worm guy who's antivaxx. I will explain...

Gonna be munching raw USDA select beef and Ativans with peterson-pill-dinner

[–] D61@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bernie... you don't lose anything by voting 'no'.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think Bernie has a very bad case of the comity brain worm. In this post-election reality - I keep thinking back to something Jonathan Alter said on MSNBC. He's a dipshit turbolib and this was during Trump's first term. 2018? He said something like "A word that's been in a news recently is 'comity'. It means 'working together'. That's C-O-M-I-T-Y..." It's six years later and I still can't believe that he mentioned the word, defined it, and even spelled it out.

Since then Alter has been a go-to lib moron for me. His takes are always bad and wrong. He never fails to bat .000 and embarrass himself. I haven't been a teenager for decades but I think sometimes when I read his stuff I instinctively do a teenager-like eye roll. He writes for the NYT. Yesterday I read an article by him that made me laugh...

A New York Judge Forces Trump to Live With His Disgrace

There will be no sentence, except for a permanent stain.

Oh, my goodness! The stain! I don't think Archive.Today will work because the link has a "#". The article is not fantastically bad or even that amusing. It's just lib spin. But here it is anyway.

Full textA New York Judge Forces Trump to Live With His Disgrace

There will be no sentence, except for a permanent stain.

By JONATHAN ALTER
Dec. 31, 2024

On Friday, the judge in the Trump felony trial signaled what he will do with Donald Trump when he sentences him on Jan. 10, just 10 days before Trump takes the oath as president.

Justice Juan Merchan will simultaneously let Trump off scot-free and give him a life sentence as a felon.

Rather than delay sentencing until Trump leaves office in 2029, as the prosecution recommends, Merchan said in his ruling that it’s important to “ensure finality” in the case, in which Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records in a criminal scheme to cover up hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and interfere in the 2016 election.

So Merchan is opting for an “unconditional discharge,” which means no jail, probation or fines. Once Trump was re-elected, jail was no longer a serious option. It may never have been, given his age and status as a first-time offender. (About one-fifth of all those convicted of falsifying business records serve time.) Probation isn’t practical for a president of the United States. And the judge is limited by law in what he can fine Trump, as he was when he fined him only $10,000 for repeatedly violating his gag order during the trial.

Merchan said this rare, extremely light sentence is “the most viable solution” to “allow Defendant to pursue his appellate options.”

And pursue them Trump will. His problem is that those options aren’t good ones. His lawyers’ appeals to get Merchan thrown off the case for bias have repeatedly failed in New York appellate court, and they have submitted zero evidence of the “jury misconduct” they allege.

Like most judges, Merchan is a big believer in the sanctity of jury verdicts. Deference to the jury, he wrote, is a “bedrock principle” of the law. And he logically demolished Trump’s many motions to dismiss, especially his newly concocted claim that the president-elect — still a private citizen — deserves some special dispensation.

Merchan referred to an earlier ruling in which he found that “no official-acts evidence was admitted at trial,” which renders Trump’s claims of immunity under the Supreme Court’s landmark decision “meritless.” The court has been carrying water for Trump lately but Merchan — who is clearly tired of Trump’s “baseless” and “irresponsible” attacks on him — included a footnote in his ruling from Chief Justice John Roberts’ 2024 Year End Report that does not bode well for the president-elect:

“Public officials, too, regrettably have engaged in recent attempts to intimidate judges — for example, suggesting political bias in the judge’s adverse rulings without a credible basis for such allegations,” Roberts wrote. “Attempts to intimidate judges for their rulings in cases are inappropriate and should be vigorously opposed.”

Ouch. Without mentioning any names, Roberts was clearly referring to Trump’s habit of trash-talking judges, including Merchan. The Supreme Court has not been eager to hear Trump’s appeals and with no real sentence to contend with, it’s hard to see why the justices would agree to take a case involving what Trump’s lawyers vaguely call “unconstitutional and unacceptable diversions and distractions from President Trump’s effort to lead the nation.”

So Trump will probably have to live out his years as a felon — a life sentence of disgrace that will stain the honors of high office. It’s not the punishment he deserves, but it’ll do.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think Archive.Today will work because the link has a "#".

looks fine actually! https://archive.ph/GAxar

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks for the link. Last year I tried 2 or 3 times before on a live page with no luck. I guess it was a bug.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago

This is the accelerationist option to hasten the demise of the great satan

I have a feeling the fucker is going to take away my SSRIs and Ritalin.

[–] btfod@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

doomer Boy I sure wish the government would ban DTC drug ads.

sicko-satan: Well well, have I got a deal for you...

Well, uh, IDK what to say shrug-outta-hecks

Birds of a redacted-1 redacted-2 feather fly together, I guess

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago
[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'm outside the states so I'm not across this very well, but as much as I hate to admit it, RFK does seem to have the right idea on a couple of things around ultra processed foods. This is almost certainly stopped-clock chemophobia but it's weird seeing Republicans stumble bass-ackwards into good policy.

IIRC Marion Nestle (no relation) has some pretty good articles on the guy, I'll update this post when I get a chance.

UPDATE: Yeah, here are the posts, a bit more noncommittal than I remember.
RFK, Jr to head HHS: brilliant move or catastrophe?
Can Robert F. Kennedy, Jr influence the Dietary Guidelines? Most definitely, yes.

Doing anything about processed food means taking on the likes of Mondelez, Unilever, Nestle, General Mills, etc, so I have to wonder where the grift is, or if it's just noise. I don't really understand how he can talk about cracking down on one section of the food industry and simultaneously want to deregulate another (raw milk), which the DFA will fucking love. Maybe you'll see a bunch of public-private partnerships where manufacturers get paid disproportionate amounts of money to do the bare minimum. Maybe you'll see Nestle branded raw milk products on shelves. Maybe it's all just words and nothing will happen at all.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

FWIW RFK got a lot of attention from left-wing boomers that still clung onto being hippies in my neck of the woods. But damn does he have one bad case of peasantbrain.

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

He’s using some of the right words, but his intentions are to ban things like milk pasteurization and the right wings goal is to get him to ban things like vaccines. Nobody involved has the goal of regulating things like lead acetate out of applesauce and the corporations know it.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

Damn, I haven’t seen a CELL-OUT since Future Trunks finally dealt with the guy.