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For some women in China, "Barbie" is more than just a movie — it's also a litmus test for their partner's views on feminism and patriarchy.

The movie has prompted intense social media discussion online, media outlets Sixth Tone and the China Project reported this week, prompting women to discuss their own dating experiences.

One user on the Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu — a photo-sharing site similar to Instagram that's mostly used by Gen Z women — even shared a guide on Monday for how women can test their boyfriends based on their reaction to the film.

According to the guide, if a man shows hatred for "Barbie" and slams female directors after they leave the theatre, then this man is "stingy" and a "toxic chauvinist," according to Insider's translation of the post. Conversely, if a man understands even half of the movie's themes, "then he is likely a normal guy with normal values and stable emotions," the user wrote.

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[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to admit, Barbie becoming a Chinese feminist icon was not on my 2023 bingo card. Anyone taking bets on when we're gonna get a kpop version of this classic?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am genuinely amazed this movie wasn't banned in China

[–] MrApples@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well they included the nine-dash line in the movies silly map (I believe Vietnam banned the movie because of this) and there's no zombies or Winnie the Pooh references so all good as far as the CCP goes.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SimplyAName@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a line China drew in the south china sea and claim its theirs for historical reason if I remember correctly.

Pissed off a load of other countries as it claimed some of their ocean defined by international law

Wikipedia link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dash_line

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

https://twitter.com/rzhongnotes/status/1675936014135619584?s=20

How the fuck can anyone take this seriously is my question. This is not a geopolitical map.

[–] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

This is an insult to the free world. Fuck the Barbie movie.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it cool if I just don't watch it? It doesn't really appeal to me.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Same, I just can’t bring myself to care about a movie that’s about toys I have zero nostalgia for.

[–] doggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Women in the US are doing that too.

I guess it works, to a point. If your man throws a Shapiro-esque fit over this movie he probably isn't great to be around the rest of the time.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alternatively, if your SO doesn't think you can be together because you don't like a movie, they probably are the wrong person to be dating.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The test isn't if someone dislikes the movie, it's why if they disliked the movie.

It's fine if someone thinks it was boring, poorly written, etc. It's a red flag if they go off on some misogynistic rant.

[–] dohju@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If someone goes on some misogynistic rant then no, you should not date them.

Also if someone needs to test you and wants to goad someone into anything 'as a test' then you should not date them either.

Both the tester and the testee should not be in a relationship and need to do some growing up.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Dating itself is inherently a test. That's the point.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you base your relationship on a fucken Hollywood movie then that should be a litmus test in and of itself.

Also, guys, if your girlfriend constantly feels the need to "test" your relationship, then she's not the right one. Thats a massive red flag.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Barbie starting the revolution in China? Hopefully other countries as well. Good timeline.

[–] emidio@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China is already communist

[–] nix@merv.news 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No it’s not lol

Their political leaders are billionaires, the workers don’t own any means of production, there’s terrible workers rights, etc.

[–] whatsarefoogee@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how communism always ends up. When you hand over majority of the power to the state, it won't be keen on giving it back.

That's like saying the US is not capitalist because we don't have a true free market and better products/services don't always rise to the top.

These simply aren't things that can practically happen, just like the workers owning the means of production.

[–] Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't make any sense though. Communism isn't when you "give power to the state." It's a word used to describe a specific economic system that China does not have. The word that best describes what I think you're getting at is "authoritarian." Words mean things, and if a thing doesn't fit the definition of a word, then it isn't that word.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which communist state didn't end up authoritarian?

[–] Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Homie, which states have ever actually implemented communism? Calling yourself "Communist" means about as much as North Korea calling themselves a" Democratic People's Republic" if you don't actually implement it's ideas.

Additionally, all attempts at democracy, and all instances of capitalism, have resulted in tyranny, because it's just really hard to build a society that doesn't do that no matter what governmental system and economic system you set out to establish.

Even places like New Zealand or the Nordic countries which are much closer to a social democracy are tyrannical insofar as they participate, propagate, and benefit from a global network of capitalism that is only possible through the exploitation of hundreds millions, if not billions of people. Outsourcing your tyranny and exploitation to other places on the planet is still tyranny.and exploitation: it just has better PR.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

which states have ever actually implemented communism?

Ah, no true communism. Communism certainly can't end up authoritarian if there is no true communism. ;p

[–] Psyduck_world@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought the movie criticizes both extreme feminism and male chauvinism, or did I watch a different Barbie movie?

[–] kraftpudding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Barbie Was not the good guy in the Barbie movie, right? Like, even in the end they admit that they will not give the Kens true equality, just enough that they basically won't revolt again. People here calling Barbie a feminist icon, what movie were you watching?

[–] notoriousCAT74w@discuss.online -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are those " themes " in that movie? You stupid women don't even know what is in the movie and here you are trying to lecture us . And why this movie is suddenly a " litmus test " for partner's views on "patriarchy "? You stupid wimps want to decide based on some random movie , if that man is a good person or not. This movie is obviously promoting some stupid woke ideas , trying to show how men are evil in some way or another.

[–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

asks question

assumes because they don't know the answer that women(who are obiously inferior to their massive intellect) don't know either

groups all women together as stupid

completely misunderstands the message of the movie

Good work, mate

Edit: formatting

[–] Darth_vader__@discuss.online -2 points 1 year ago

why chinese guys even putting up with this shit?