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[–] cloud@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

https://www.nissanusa.com/privacy.html

Sensitive personal information, including driver’s license number, national or state identification number, citizenship status, immigration status, race, national origin, religious or philosophical beliefs, sexual orientation, sexual activity, precise geolocation, health diagnosis data, and genetic information.

Please make this reach the front page because it's beyond ridiculous

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know where you live, but it already illegal to hide any health data from road authorities in many countries like UK. If you get a lightheadedness from a know diagnosis and get into a crash, you will not only be prosecuted for the crash itself, but also for fraud that you're unfit to drive. Double criminal sentence, enjoy!

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair the UK is farther along the dystopian nightmare surveillance state path than the US.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Fjern@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

At the very least.. cant the US implement one of the basic rules from GDPR?

In simple terms, what data can companies keep?

Data need to have: OK

Data nice to have: Not OK

The US will absolutely not implement anything remotely like GDPR, because that would hurt the profits of a LOT of companies who happen to have a LOT of lobbyists on K street.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd much rather they implement the right to deletion. I know they will get their hands on a ton of data, regardless of how we write the clause. But at least let me delete that data when I want it gone.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

GDPR includes right to delete data too.

[–] CaptainFlintlockFinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Lucky for me I can’t afford a new car anyway. I’ll just keep driving my unconnected car.

[–] bobbytables@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for that link and Thank you to Mozilla for doing those tests. I always suspected something like this but it is good to have it tested and in writing.

My only gripe with the article is this:

All of the car brands on this list except for Tesla, Renault, and Dacia signed on to a list of Consumer Protection Principles from the US automotive industry group ALLIANCE FOR AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION, INC.

Renault and Dacia aren't available in the US, so there is really no need for them to sign those principles. Which makes Tesla the only one where this is relevant.

[–] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got an email from OnStar the other day saying it contacted my bank and updated my card info because I had gotten an old card and hadn't updated the info, I don't pay for OnStar but the dealership MAKES you set it up even if you don't use it.

How the fuck are they allowed to contact my bank and get information like that? Weirded my TF out to say the least.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They did that to me. I specifically gave them a card I knew was going to expire before the trial period was over and they got the new information anyway.

If I remember correctly, it's a "feature" the credit card companies have so your subscriptions don't lapse.

[–] orphiebaby@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

How is that fucking legal?

[–] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Tesla is only the second product we have ever reviewed to receive all of our privacy “dings.” (The first was an AI chatbot we reviewed earlier this year.) What set them apart was earning the “untrustworthy AI” ding. The brand’s AI-powered autopilot was reportedly involved in 17 deaths and 736 crashes and is currently the subject of multiple government investigations.

How utterly unsurprising. Also,

"Consent” is an illusion
Many people have lifestyles that require driving. So unlike a smart faucet or voice assistant, you don’t have the same freedom to opt out of the whole thing and not drive a car.

This is the kicker, many people need cars for unrelated reasons and the fact that ALL car brands abuse our data means there is no alternative.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guess I’m driving my 2010 Honda Accord and burns oil and leaks steering fluid a few more years.

Should probably get the steering thing fixed.

[–] money_loo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah! Fuck the environment when your car wants to track which apps you use on it!

*Edit: Lol you guys would be hilarious if the climate situation wasn’t so dire.

Is it better for the environment to drive an old car?

In conclusion, buying a used car may avoid the carbon emissions of manufacturing a new one – but you should also bear in mind the lower fuel economy, higher exhaust emissions, and ongoing maintenance requirements.

So no, it’s not always better to just drive a leaky piece of shit forever instead of upgrading. The car you’re buying has already been made, it’s carbon been produced, and now you’re generating less emissions with the newer more efficient vehicle. This is pretty simple stuff to keep in mind next time you want to act smug about smog.

[–] valkyrie@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bet you it’s more environmentally friendly to keep driving a car you already have as opposed to getting a new one even if it’s “cleaner.”

[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 years ago

Depends on how much cleaner and how much you drive.

[–] ErinCrush@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sometimes I'm glad I drive an old, barebones features car.

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

My cars best tech is the CD player lmao