They know better than my doctor, despite not having my medical history or knowing my current details or having my care reviewed by someone who actually went to medical school? Interesting that this accepting of my payment and denial of my care benefits them financially, and that they have the highest denial-rate in the industry...
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I love that the Americans use the staff with two snakes, the Caduceus, which is a symbol of commerce instead of the proper Rod of Asclepius, with one snake, which is the symbol of medicine.
I used to think they just fucked up and used the wrong symbol. But it is more fitting for their system.
Some of us know the correct one.
And to note, when I have actually looked at medical buildings, they have the correct one.
That's more fact checking than you should reasonably expect from people who base their view of 350 million people on Lemmy meme shitposts.
Interesting.
Now I'm off to find how a mfing snake ever became a symbol of health.
The Rod of Asclepius takes its name from the Greek god Asclepius, a deity associated with healing and medicinal arts in ancient Greek religion and mythology. Asclepius' attributes, the snake and the staff, sometimes depicted separately in antiquity, are combined in this symbol.[2][full citation needed]
In honour of Asclepius, a particular type of non-venomous rat snake was often used in healing rituals, and these snakes – the Aesculapian snakes – crawled around freely on the floor in dormitories where the sick and injured slept. These snakes were introduced at the founding of each new temple of Asclepius throughout the classical world.
The significance of the serpent has been interpreted in many ways; sometimes the shedding of skin and renewal is emphasized as symbolizing rejuvenation,[8][a] while other assessments center on the serpent as a symbol that unites and expresses the dual nature of the work of the Apothecary Physician, who deals with life and death, sickness and health.[10] The ambiguity of the serpent as a symbol, and the contradictions it is thought to represent, reflect the ambiguity of the use of drugs,[8] which can help or harm, as reflected in the meaning of the term pharmakon, which meant "drug", "medicine", and "poison" in ancient Greek.[11] However the word may become less ambiguous when "medicine" is understood as something that heals the one taking it because it poisons that which afflicts it, meaning medicine is designed to kill or drive away something and any healing happens as a result of that thing being gone, not as a direct effect of medicine. Products deriving from the bodies of snakes were known to have medicinal properties in ancient times, and in ancient Greece, at least some were aware that snake venom that might be fatal if it entered the bloodstream could often be imbibed. Snake venom appears to have been prescribed in some cases as a form of therapy.[12]
Microbiologist here: I was taught that part of the origin of the symbol was the way a specific worm was removed, you had a stick or rod or whatever and you made a little incision where the worm is, then slowly pull it out and wind it around the rod
One of man’s first medical procedures
I've seen a video of the ancient method being done by a tribe... somewhere. It's been a long time. Hardcore and very cool.
Wow I knew about the difference in the staves, but I always wondered what the snake had to do with it. Nice write up, saving this for sure!
Also that's the coolest version of the staff I've ever seen. If I were a nurse or something I would be getting that tattoo.
It's from wikipedia so you don't have to save.
I'm more likely to remember it saved on Lemmy than in browser favorites sadly.
The way the story goes... They didn't explicitly fuck up, some dude just though two snakes looked cooler than one and we've just been running with it for a few decades now. There is a story about how it was originally adopted by military personnel who transported medical supplies (along with messages so... it would kinda made sense) but the justification there does feel super cherry picked. Mostly, the accepted reasoning is that the caduceus is just a better design.
third panel: death reappears behind him
Never knew he was Italian.
United Healthcare: "but is it really necessary to stay alive?"
United Healthcare: “but is it really necessary to stay alive?”
"I DUNNO MOTHERFUCKER, IS IT?!"
- Luigi Mangione
allegedly
"if you wanted to stay alive, you should have gotten a better paying job"
Dear God do I hate how true that is. Not sure if intentional or not, but either way I’m with you. And I think they’re working to a plan.
I had a call center job while finishing college, but I’m currently a professional software developer. The difference in coverage is crazy. Dental crowns went from 25% to 75% coverage. My annual maximum out of pocket for healthcare is so low I keep hitting it by accident and wondering why things are suddenly free.
Why? I think it’s a deliberate plan to make life pretty good for like 51% of us, so we won’t vote against the way they absolutely wreck the other 49% of us.
I hope it stops working soon.
Same. I think they want enough of us to throw the rest under the bus as a "got mine" and keep dividing and conquering. It is so exhausting having to tell the rest of my high earning peers that the enemy is NOT people just trying to survive...
I think it has a lot to do with humans just being incapable of understanding large numbers. Like yes you're a bigshot surgeon and you get paid mad money. You're rich, anyone would say so right?
But what if I told you that you have more in common with a fry cook at McDonald's than you do a CEO?
United Healthcare: .... we make money first ... we just do health care on the side
That's just the thing isn't it though? They don't do healthcare. At all. They don't DO ANYTHING but make money as a middleman. We must destroy the health insurance industry with universal healthcare, if we ever get another chance.
Average American: but that's socialist/communist!
It had to be forced on the people of the UK. The idea was quite unpopular. Once they tried it, it became the most popular part of the government. I think it has a lot more support here.
We got your back! (and it's gonna stay fucked up)
I clicked on the link. Page Not Found. Did it get taken down?
Should've swapped the death's head for United Healthcare in the second panel.