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[–] anachronist@midwest.social 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Next time they pick a patsy for a guy with distinctive eyebrows they should find a guy with the same eyebrows.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 103 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It really is an absolutely bizaare story. Why would he walk around with the murder weapon like that?

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It looks like you couldn't decide on "bizarre" or "bazaar" so you split the difference. Bazaar is a market place, bizarre is weird. Just fyi, not trying to be a dick about it happy holidays love you

[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (5 children)

See, I think one of three scenarios might have happened:

  • Luigi didn't do it. He was framed and set up because out of the hundreds of prank tips, this guy looked "close enough."
  • Luigi did it, but the evidence was made up to make the case solid and the police look competent. Luigi wasn't stupid, but he's boned anyway.
  • Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.

As a writer, one of the aggravating tropes we have to follow is, "make the story believable," when reality sometimes doesn't align with "a good story." Some criminals are really that stupid, and some armchair theory, based on decades of movies, books, and TV shows, you expect "hey, this is what they SHOULD have done is." And they didn't. It's like when a chessmaster has to watch complete amateurs play chess. "Obvious strategies" are ignored, and basically both players are just not thinking past their last move.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 16 points 23 hours ago

Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.

Given that he was valedictorian at his school, I find that unlikely to be the option.

I think you're missing a 4th option:

  • He did it, and believed it not worth the anxiety/suffering of living the rest of his life as a wanted man, so did what he could to get away from the immediate scene but ultimately turn himself in so to speak.

And there are almost certainly more nuanced options out there.

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The thing is, whoever did it was pretty smart about much of the crime, which is why the story of how Luigi was caught and what they say he had on is person seems so odd relative to the behavior the previous week.

If it was Luigi, he was pretty disciplined and smart before, during and immediately after the crime with the only leak being showing his face at the hostel (which he may have been required to do when he gave them ID).

If he did do it and really had all that evidence on him, maybe he wanted to get caught? It seems crazy that anyone would hang onto a 3d printed gun when it would be pretty easy to destroy and dispose of it in multiple pieces and locations.

I’ve said it before but I truly believe that Luigi would still be free if he had plucked his eyebrows, regardless of whether he did it.

Edit to add, maybe he thought he’d get shot or captured at the scene and didn’t think too far beyond the immediate getaway? And with the stress of his picture up all over the news and social media, he kinda wasn’t thinking straight?

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be precise, we have no idea what evidence was collected or what it shows. All we know is what the cops said they found, and cops are notorious liars. Just ask Young Thug or Karen Read.

We can assume some of what the cops say is true, but the challenge is that we have no idea which parts.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It seems quite plausible that when they found the backpack it also had the gun and "manifesto" (stupid to call it that but it pushes their agenda) and whatever else in it, but they kept quiet about it. They only revealed that they had found the backpack. That would allow them to arrest anyone and then claim that he had the gun, etc. on him when they found him. They'll need to prove that those things weren't in the backpack they found.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

They'll need to prove that those things weren't in the backpack they found.

I really doubt it. Cops barely have to prove shit when they're arresting someone for weed. In something this high profile and important for the establishment I doubt there will be much proof at all.

A slight variation on your second scenario is parallel construction.
I don't know if Luigi's the shooter or not, but if he did it, there's a decent chance whatever is presented as evidence has absolutely nothing to do with how they actually caught the guy.

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[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t trust the police so I don’t assume the items they claim that they got off of Luigi are legit. We’ll see what his lawyer says in court. We also don’t know if the gun that they say he had was the murder weapon. Have they done ballistics analysis or anything yet?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think he wanted to be caught and make a statement. "Those parasites had it coming"

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Probably a majority of ppl on social media who don't like wealth inequality, have said that in some form.

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[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was apparently in possession of the backpack they earlier recovered so....

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

The one with the monopoly money? How do they know that it was his backpack? I heard them talking about the backpack and monopoly money non stop but I have heard nothing about how they are so sure that it’s related to the case. NYC is huge and there’s a lot of people who lose backpacks all the time and there’s a lot of folks who would want to troll and stir up shit.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Imagine what happens if someone with a charming smile and strong eyebrow game shoots another health care CEO.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 19 points 1 day ago

God willing

Whoever killed Brian Thompson really did announce a safari on these parasites

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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is actually the beginning of the plot to Sonic Adventure 2. We should be seeing Luigi snowboarding down the streets of San Francisco any day now.

[–] Somsphet@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh great, now I have to ask my 9 year old sonic fan to put this into context. Kid beat the game on computer despite the crazy control setup.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sonic gets framed for Shadow's crime and escapes authorities snowboarding down an inclined street

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 day ago
[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

The Claims Adjuster Abides.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Am I missing something or is this still just people being stupid about photos?

[–] spireghost@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's not really the photos. For me, it's that it's really unusual for him to have had all the evidence on hand. Like the ID, gun, silencer, notes, and a motive on hand, just chilling in McDonalds. He also gave away probable cause to search him by presenting the ID which he should have known was fake. Considering he took concealing steps like using a ghost gun, ditching his backpack, and making a relatively clean getaway, it's pretty odd.

Still it's obviously possible that he wanted to be caught or was exhausted... or just dumb enough to not think of that.

It IS a big thing that the evidence hasn't been presented officially yet. There's a lot of media talk implying that he's the guy but trial by media is not a verdict

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think that the gun and everything else were dumped and found and the cops are saying he had them on him when he didn't. I think they know it's him, but they didn't use legal means to identify him (parallel construction). They might have used some kind of new way of tracking people that they don't want to reveal to the public.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Succinct analysis plus the desire of the state to pin this to anyone really to please the parasite class.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly just any manifesto that starts off by praising the feds is laughable.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 day ago

👏👏👏

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The thing that gets me is the “ghost gun” they found on him doesn’t look like a 3D printed gun according to the pictures that were released. It looks like a typical factory manufactured pistol with a metal slide and a metal barrel. Both machined. He would have spent a lot of needless time adding this much detail to the gun, like the grips on the machined metal slide. Why put so much effort into something like that?

Everything on that gun looks highly machined. This isn’t what you would expect from a home brewed 3D printed gun.

Now it could be they just took a random gun and photoed it to make the media happy and didn’t want to show the actual gun. But it’s odd.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

"3d printed guns" aren't all homebrew. Usually with guns you can just buy literally every part except for a certain part that's serialized and legally considered to be "the gun" (ship of Theseus style; any other part can be replaced and it's the same gun, but if that one's different it's a different gun)

It's pretty trivial to print only that part and buy the rest. Also completely legal in many states, here's a website with a bunch of examples:

https://www.printyour2a.com/frames

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