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Now, the words and figures "with the exception of articles 2-c, 4-c, 5-c, 12-c, 13-c, 14-c, 17-c, 21-c and 22-c" have been removed from the Regulation, i.e. everyone will be recognised as fit under the "controversial" articles:

  • 2-c – clinically treated tuberculosis;
  • 4-c – viral hepatitis with minor functional impairment;
  • 5-c – asymptomatic HIV carrier;
  • 12-c - slowly progressive and non-progressive with minor functional impairment and rare exacerbations of anaemia, blood clotting disorders, purpura, haemorrhagic conditions, other diseases of the blood and haematopoietic organs, and some disorders involving the immune mechanism;
  • 13-c - diseases of the endocrine system with minor functional disorders;
  • 14-c - mild, short-term, painful manifestations of mental disorders;
  • 17-c - neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders with moderate or short-term manifestations, with an asthenic state;
  • 21-c – slowly progressive diseases of the central nervous system with minor functional disorders;
  • 22-c – episodic and paroxysmal disorders, except for epilepsy, with minor impairment of organ and system functions.
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[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It doesn't feel like a great idea to conscript those with mental health issues heavily impacted by stress.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My thoughts exactly. You put me on the front line and my general commander is getting a bullet. Not saying I'll remember doing it but nobody dies except those that force me to kill.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Saying you don't "remember" doing it is probably not going to help much in your court-martial when you've posted a pre-meditated plan to do it on an open social media platform beforehand.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who tf cares lmfao.

You've been warned global military

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago

I would rather die than kill. If you tell me to kill I will kill you first to limit the amount of total death.

This is the ultimate utilitarian take on the ethics of the situation you dunce.

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

It's a terrible idea and it tells me that all the propaganda were getting about Ukraine clearly winning and barely losing anyone is bullshit. They must be real desperate if they're conscription people with mental disorders.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

All these comments "wow they'll take anyone, they must be desperate."

meanwhile Russia has been desperate for manpower this entire time and barely has enough morale to have people fight. Lmfao

[–] slice1@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] deft@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] slice1@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The burden of proof is on the accuser - I am not the one making unverifyable claims. Since the war, Ukraine population is reduced by 16%. Who do you think they are recruiting? Interestingly, 1.7 mio. immigrated...

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ukraine-population/#:~:text=The%20current%20population%20of%20Ukraine,latest%20United%20Nations%20data%201.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network -1 points 2 years ago

they are being invaded case closed

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] slice1@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Haha - your so funny. You must be really cool and strong. Your wisdom must be at the peak of humanity. Enlighten us and plant your seed for future generations to thrive on the fruits of your genius.

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personal attacks is a solid way to get blocked.

[–] slice1@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, laughing at someone is OK ('lol'). I am just giving you the clownery you are craving for.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dude, if you're being forced to post pro-russian comments by Putin post another pro-russian comment. We will get you out of there.

[–] slice1@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What did I say that is pro-russia?

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dunno couldn't hear you with them boots in your mouth and your nose up an ass

[–] slice1@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"your mouth and your nose up an ass" - deft, 2023

Sounds nice.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

bootlicker

brown-noser

sorry forgot Russians suck at English

[–] slice1@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You seem cool - wanna hang out sometime? Maybe you can teach me english since you seem like such a great communicator.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network -1 points 2 years ago

well you seem like you suck

[–] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Ukraine:

  • closed border for all males;
  • non-stop involuntary draft of unwilling citizens;
  • resorts to conscripting HIV positives and people with mental health issues.

Russia:

  • first wave of forced mobilization ended half year ago, second wave still not started;
  • still has open border for most citizens (which actually helped a lot of them to avoid first wave of mobilization).

In alternative reality created by western massmedia this definately means that Russia is short of manpower. In world of logical thinking this actually means something else.

[–] gencha@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Russia did hire Wagner, who recruited from prisons, right?

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[–] deft@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

one is being INVADED

You fucking idiot lol

[–] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The question wasn't who's being INVADED, the question was who's DESPERATE FOR MANPOWER.

wtf you've lost the point of conversation and of your own original message, that's the real sign of ridiculous idiocy

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

HOLY FUCK y'all so stupid.

let me explain it for you, c'mon hold my hand.

If your country is being invaded every single person is part of the war effort. Every one. Even if you just cut grass or worked at costco, because you are being invaded and under threat of war. You're part of a war effort. Remanaging your resources like manpower to more war adjacent positions makes complete sense. All hands on deck, we are invaded.

If you are invading and must conscript fighters, your invasion is a meat grinder not going well.

Russia was supposed to end this war long ago, in their minds. At this point it is a sunk cost and they HAVE to win or they severely lose on a play they made.

So no. Not the same. Russia is doing terrible.

[–] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for interesting excursion into your delusions. Actually you've just written WHY Ukraine is more desperate for manpower than Russia ("every single person is part of war effort and so on"). So you yourself proved your initial position to be wrong, but you were too lame to grasp that. And about "we are invaded": the only war that you personally wage is war in lemmy comments against facts, logics and critical thinking. Don't try to cover your own nullity with other's casualities.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

personal attack, personal attack... huh nothing? no content ok.

Ukraine is fighting for their lives, Russia is forcing a fight for personal gain of the rich. Different games they're playing you stupid cuck lol

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[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Totally the actions of a country that's winning

[–] maporita@unilem.org 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Ukraine was invaded by a tyrant. The people have suffered for over a year, children have been slaughtered or lost limbs, civilians entombed in rubble, and the armed forces have lost tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands defending their homeland.

Now I'm not a violent man but I have to admit, in the face of all these poor people have suffered, reading your glib comment does make me feel like punching something.

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[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

blood clotting disorders

you could not get me to go to WAR with a blood clotting disorder. Might as well just shoot me at the draft office and let me bleed out right there

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are roles for conscripts that don't involve frontline exposure.

[–] slice1@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you really trying to justify this?

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes they are lolol. Look at their history.

[–] catfish@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

so citizens called to defend their country is worse than literal killers and rapists going into occupied territories the terroruzzzian mafia has been sending for a year now? 'lolol' the old men we see posted with their hands tied saying they have grandsons? 'rofl'

'tHrEe dAy sPeCiAl mIlItArY oPeRaTiOn' right? fucken terroruzzzian clowns, dangerous clowns, but clowns none the less

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago

they must be running out of manpower

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