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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I was driving in Xinjiang I saw this thing on the horizon and thout it was an inland sea. It was only as I drove nearer that it resolved into solar panels, but even then the illusion that it was actually a body of water continued. I swear it took 20-30 minutes to drive past.

Of course this pales in comparison to the literal forests of wind farms that cover huge swathes of Xinjiang and which take hours to drive past and consist of the biggest wind turbines I've ever seen.

The green energy infrastructure in Xinjiang is genuinely one of the most jaw dropping things I've ever seen in my life. Possibly the most.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Be genuinely honest, what did it seem like for the local uguyrs? Do you think the west interpretation of what's going on there true or an exaggeration?

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

They are doing fine. I spoke with many of them, and in the rare occasion when politics came up and I mentioned the western line about the genocide there reactions ranged from laughter to outright horror. I ate their food. Danced with them in the public squares as Chinese people of all ethnicities are prone to doing. Their culture is celebrated in China, not suppressed. People come from all over China to experience it. China is very proud of the (I think) 56 ethnicities that compromise their country. It is enshrined in their laws that they are to be protected. The idea that they would just casually decide to snuff one of them out is absurd. And why now? Why didn't they do this when they founded the state?

There is a high security presence in Xinjiang. The state borders multiple countries and has been subject to American backed Arab spring fuckery.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

I can absolutely believe in America using groups to try to cause chaos within china, they did literally everywhere else, and now somehow china is the big bad genocidal nation? I hope to see it for myself as my ethnic homeland of Pakistan borders xinyang and I can cross it without a visa i think. Often time the west is projecting the things they very much did and propagandise that's what china or Russia or whoever is GOING to do. When their best buddies Israel, Saudi Arabia and UAE all cause more problems in the world.

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a channel on YouTube named Little Chinese Everywhere who was in Xinjiang about a year ago. You can see what life is like on the ground there for people in her videos.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Thank you, I'll check it out

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

what the fuck you were not kidding that is fucking wild. Way to go China.

I've slowly been slipping more pro china talking points into the myriad political conversations I have with libs and I sense that the grip of western propaganda is slipping. Like the whole green belt around that desert. Sometimes you can break through the thought terminating cliches by showing them something as awesome as this. Like they are literally trying to save us from ourselves and our stupid capitalist bullshit.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's absurdly cool. But my doomer alarm went off when it says this farm feeds 2 million households- that means they'd need 300 of these to satisfy residential energy demands alone negative

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

doomer alarm went off when it says this farm feeds 2 million

Agriculture uses like 50 million square km of land

[–] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Alone, yes, but not in combination with hydroelectric, wind, and their recent nuclear innovations

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a dumb question - on windy days do the cells get covered in desert dust and sand? Is there a way to clean them off if that happens?

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Cleaning them is a lot less important with the new generations of solar panels, but if they wanted to they could always use a hose or a brush or whatever. I’ve managed a couple of smaller solar farms where they don’t get touched at all unless you need to pick off a dead seagull or something and the yield is pretty constant.

Most of the sand and dust will also be blown away by the wind.

[–] TheDrink@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

That's definitely a thing, but the buildup isn't too fast so it just becomes a regular maintenance item.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

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