this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2024
168 points (99.4% liked)

Europe

1667 readers
361 users here now

News and information from Europe 🇪🇺

(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)

Rules (2024-08-30)

  1. This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
  2. No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
  3. Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
  4. No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism.
  5. Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
  6. If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
  7. Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in !yurop@lemm.ee. (They're cool, you should subscribe there too!)
  8. Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
  9. No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)

(This list may get expanded when necessary.)

We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.

If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.

If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the mods: @federalreverse@feddit.org, @poVoq@slrpnk.net, or @anzo@programming.dev.

founded 6 months ago
MODERATORS
top 33 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

To have these features be universal across all device types would be so amazing. iPhone, android, Mac, and Windows should all have the ability to transfer files and stream media. It should be simple

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Digital Living Network Alliance. It could've been great, if not for companies like Apple cannibalizing it.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

Knowing Apple, they'd likely make a bare bones functionality somewhat workable while making it more of a pita than it's worth.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

You know bluetooth has been able to do just that since like 2005

[–] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Bluetooth as a protocol sucks ass and that’s why no one uses it

[–] Mixel@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

At least there are good things such as BLE that come with bluetooth which saves a lot of hassle with embedded devices so Bluetooth is not all that bad

[–] kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago

And for android and also windows nearby share works very well, basically the same as airdrop

[–] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago

Maybe, but it’s slow and much harder to use than how AirDrop works

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

My girlfriend has an iPhone, and the storage is full. We've been trying to get all her pictures transferred off to delete some of the older ones off the phone and holy fuck is it a pain in the ass. Move them to her MacBook? Pain in the ass because of how they setup their Photos app. Move to a flashdrive via a dongle? Pain in the ass because it downloads from who knows where and fills the storage back up before I can start the transfer. Connect to my Windows PC? Lmao yeah right.

So far I've just gotten Immich to backup all her pics to my server but due to the amount on her phone it takes forever then bugs out and stops transferring.

iOS can eat my entire ass

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago

Syncthing-Fork on a PC/Mac, Möbius Sync on the iOS device (it's $5). Worth the five bucks. I keep multiple phones, hundreds of gigs syncing with Syncthing. It just works.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

iOS can eat my entire ass

Let's rename it to iOAss

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I tried to share a contact yesterday from Android to Apple. Quick share doesn't work. QR code doesn't work.

I had to get their phone number and send it over SMS in text. Ridiculous.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

You can share a contact from your contacts app to any service - it'll attach a vcard.

Works both ways. Yea, it's harder than it should be, when Palm had this capability via infrared in 1996.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I wasn't sure Apple would take a vCard, so after failing QR, I sent both the vCard and the info in plain text over SMS.

Harder than it should be. Android could have just done a QR code.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Local Send and Quick Share is the answer

[–] ton618@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yay for local send! Anyone knows if there's a way to use it while I have VPN on on one the devices ? I usually have to turn it off while sending things..

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

use split tunneling to exempt the app from using VPN connection.

[–] ton618@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Anivia@feddit.org 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

It's a part of Android and comes pre-installed if you are on a phone running the latest Android Version

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Share

I am not sure if it is a part of AOSP so custom Roms, or phone brands without Google apps support like Huawei, may not include it

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago

the ending of the very first paragraph that you've linked answers that.

[–] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 20 hours ago

The Implementation Sucks

Android Beam was so much nicer to use

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope they only work on the same wifi. They dont use bluetooth to find a device and then send files directly to eachother over wifi. They connect over a wifi router

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Quickshare absolutely does find other devices over Bluetooth and then send the files over a direct wifi connection between the 2 phones. I've used it that way tons of times

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You know you can just connect straight via bluetooth to the other phone

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 7 points 21 hours ago

I too enjoy file transfer speeds measured in kilobytes per hour

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The new Matter casting protocol should in theory reduce some of this proprietary-ness of Google’s Chromecast and Apple’s AirPlay

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 8 hours ago

Yes, but actually no. Apple loves to create their own new thing regardless of existing standards, so I don’t see why they would ever integrate this when AirPlay exists. That’s why forcing them to open up their proprietary protocols is so important. Since they won’t adopt open standards, it would at least mean others could implement Apple’s.

[–] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 20 hours ago

Android Beam was so much cooler and easier to use than Quick Share

[–] Henry@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple should sell chips for that, :)

[–] sudoku@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Did they eventually make the 5G modem or did they gave up and used a 3rd party modem in their phones? I'm sure Bluetooth and WiFi was not the issue in their modems, but no one is gonna buy them if 5G performs like crap while consuming way too much power.

[–] Henry@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I meant a chip for Airdrop and AirPlay :)

[–] sudoku@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

well yes, as it operates over WiFi and Bluetooth, the chip in question is the modem.