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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That comic also represents 100% of all survival crafting games, plus Factorio

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It's true, but when I play games like Terraria, I try to preserve beautiful features of the map and even incorporate them into my builds. Like those surface cave things where it's basically floating dirt/rock with grass and trees growing on them. I often make those into the entrances of underground homes. Same with the deserts. When you get the actuators, you can make sand entrances. I also enjoy making houses in the leaves of the living trees.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Avatar is just recycled CGI Fern Gully anyway

[–] robinoberg@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

It's a motif as old as time. Foreign invader getting Stockholm Syndrome with the natives. Another famous example is Dances With Wolves. That film called The Great Wall as well. Some versions of Robin Hood has it. Anthropologists call it Going Native, which is what Carlos Castañeda did.

But they're not all about economic expansionism

[–] ech@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Avatr is about capitalism

That wasn't glaringly obvious to everyone?

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well it's literally Pocahontas in space so more obvious comparison is to the colonialism. They could grow gardens and farms while destroying the natives, the movie would have been the same.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
  1. Colonialism was driven by capitalism

  2. They weren't settling land - they were setting up a mining operation.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was just one line of dialog, but the sequel did mention that the company is expanding from just resource extraction to selling settlements to the wealthiest who are fleeing a dying earth

[–] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the sequel

So not the original then. The one being discussed.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah man, we all understood that the first time around when it was called Fern Gully.

Like Avatar if you want but like.... it is not a deep piece of media with hard-to-discern messaging. Shit is pretty clear.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One time I unmatched someone from a dating app because the second avatar movie was coming out and they said that it was weird of me to say that the alien people were supposed to represent Native Americans because "they're just blue aliens why would you compare them to real life?"

Apparently media literacy makes you a weirdo?

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

Yes it definitely makes you weird. Turn the brain off and consume the media like a good little sheep (/s if it wasn't obvious)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Fucking Tarzan was fighting evil white exploiters of pristine Africa in books back in the early 1900s.

A good white saviour from the evil white people, because the indigenous can't do it for themselves. Just like in Ferngully and Avatar.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago
[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

That was not a subtle theme...

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

I saw the film in a theater with someone who wanted to impress upon me that someone pointed out to her how alike it was to what happened to indigenous peoples in the Americas (someone else had pointed that out to her, so she assumed I wouldn't get it on my own). I was like, if you think that's a novel observation, you really need to be hit in the face with concepts to understand things. It couldn't have been more obvious.

But maybe that highlights how much some people just aren't observant or introspective or whatever else. It would explain a lot.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It is also about settler colonialism. There are natural gas fields off the coast of Gaza.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

There’s a lovely coast and trillions to be made.

[–] robinoberg@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Satisfactory music starts playing

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago

Paved paradise, put up a parking lot.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Explore, exploit, exterminate.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Holy shit! Avatar is about capitalism? How did I miss that?! I better rewatch it and see if it's a recurring theme.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

- Jack Handey

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm torn, because there's an idea that industrial capital only knows how to consume and destroy what it touches. And there's ample evidence to that effect.

But there's this other more naive notion that life never changes, species don't compete for habitat, and doing anything to alter the local ecology is this unforgivable sin. This, despite the fact that everything in the area is itself a product of eons of speciation and evolution and carnivorization.

The impulse to preserve has to be balanced with the expectation for change. The goal should be symbiosis, not stasis.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

The idea that nature is precious and must be preserved is human-centric.

Trees caused an extinction event when they appeared by absorbing all the carbon dioxyde and radically changing the atmosphere. But we feel bad when we're the ones doing it

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Factorio.

The factory must grow.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I like to describe the aliens that attack you in factorio as environmentalists.

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