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Fees of up to $0.20 per install threaten to upend large chunks of the industry.

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unity saw how Reddit killed off free users by raising prices to absurd rates, and how Reddit was largely unaffected by it as a whole. Not going to be surprised to see other types of platforms also follow suit.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read that this started with easy loan money drying up after the First Republic collapse.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Easy money ending too quickly caused the First Republic collapse. Not the other way around. The Fed did a half a decade of rate hikes in a year.

Feb '22 rates were 0.08% by Feb '23 they were 4.57%. A 5700% increase in 12 months. First Republic collapsed on May '23.

An aggressive but responsible rate increase of 0.25% per quarter would have taken only 4 years to implement but would likely have led to zero bank failures.

[–] RealM@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the worst part of it all is the trust that is irrevocably broken now.
This is obviously a moronic scummy decision driven by greed, but it also goes directly against past decisions. As per this reddit post, Unity actually had a TOS in action that protected Developers against retroactive changes like this. Specifically, it stated that you could choose to continue using old versions of the engine and comply to the old TOS if an update to the TOS that you disagree with ever happened. This specific part of the TOS was deleted last year.

If they actually try to enforce this new crap on already released games (that accepted an older version of the TOS) then it would seem blatantly illegal (I'm not a lawyer though).

Even if they revert everything by tomorrow, the whole fiasco still shows where Unity's current interests are, and make the company a liability to deal with for any game developer.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unity actually had a TOS in action that protected Developers

No it didn't. It just had words that pretended tk protect developers. TOS are meaningless for anyone other than the service when they can change at will.

[–] RealM@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yea, they are useless when being changed at will, but what if the TOS specifically said "You can disregard future TOS versions and still abide by this old one under certain circumstances" ?
You would still be complying with the Terms of Service, by not honoring the new Terms of Service.

Obviously, this is still a terrible situation regardless, but I am thinking about if the old TOS won't give already released games a way out of this BS, or even better, may keep a usable Unity version alive for the future. Long term obviously, as many people as possible should ditch unity entirely, but for right now, it looks like a lot of developers will have big trouble starting in just 3 months.

This specific part of the TOS was deleted last year.

Yeah that's fine, what could possibly go wrong?

the trust that is irrevocably broken now

Irrevocably for the next week or so, maybe. People not only put up with but eat up heaps and heaps of BS and never change, so the BS never changes. Oh, Unity's corporate shite. "Shut up, it's fine!" Oh, Unity's being evil. "Shut up, it's fine!" Oh, Unity hired the fucking EA guy. "Shut up, it's fine!" Unity removed protections for devs. "Shut up, it's fine!" Unity wants to charge the fuck out of everycritter per-install. "Oh woe!" ... but any day now it'll be back to "Shut up, it's fine! They just want money, that's what companies are for! It's just capitalism broooo gotta make money, they can't just give stuff away!" like that justifies literally anything.

Blah blah blah. I guess I'll never understand how people can think for-profit companies that repeatedly abuse them are their friends. Maybe that's just me being a clueless lefty free software hippie or whatever, unaware of the benefits of being exploited and shat on then going and white-knighting for the damn companies against real people anyway.

wanders off yappyranting into the void

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good reason to just use godot

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I think the only reason not to use Godot now is console support.