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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago (2 children)

All three of them aren't worth much, truth be told.

[–] mogranja@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yep. If all 3 of them died in a freak submarine accident tomorrow, nothing would change in the world.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

nothing would change in the world.

It depends on a lot of factors but an argument could be made that things would improve.

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was hoping that billionaires dying in submarine accidents was going to become a trend.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 days ago

Luigi could always pop a hole in one

[–] SeriousMite@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

The raccoon I just saw rummaging through the trash bin has more value as a human being than all of them.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 68 points 6 days ago (1 children)

this just shows how much the game has no basis in merit or reality.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Makes me want to bring it all back to tribes and shitting in the woods. We can play the nobody gets shit if we dont game too.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 6 days ago

thats how I am with consumerism and buying stuff now. in the sense of like. you know what. I can still read books ya bastards and I don't need most of whats being sold.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is now worth more than the 2nd ~~richest~~ greediest man (Jeff Bezos) and the third ~~richest~~ greediest man (Mark Zuckerberg) combined!

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Imagine every single minion stopping to work for him. Even the bankers. He'd be stranded and helpless. No family member (if there still are any) would help him for free.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

That's why they demand those "other" women be baby factories.

[–] ShadowZone@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Can we please stop calling someone "being worth" x amount of money? It's disgusting on a fundamental level.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 20 points 6 days ago

In Germany, some people call people on the bottom of the money pyramid "socially weak"...

Disgusting as well. Whoever has billions and doesn't help otherd, is socially weak!

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

Yes!

I guess we can't exactly say he has more money, but we could say he has more "wealth."

But he's about the most worthless piece of shit on the planet.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Shit, I did a double take seeing your name. It's good to see you here on lemmy.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Okay lets brainstorm, they are all parasites on society, they are not more worthy than anyone else, but "king" has a sort of good vibe to it for many people so...

Something along Robber Baron? But again, baron is kind of cool.

Gangster? Too cool.

Oligarch is for russians right?

Child prince, too demeaning.

Hyper burglar, too complicated.

Thief sounds good IMO but they steal so much, and in history we've always been facinated with oeople being able to do that (kings, dragons, and actual thiefs).

Bureaucratic parasites? Because they steal the work by shuffling the papers. Also doesn't sound "cool".

Accountant or clerk seems to be what they actually are, cooking the book on the whole society.

Elon Musk: super clerc.

Zuccenberg: society accountant.

Bill Gates: fraudulent clerc.

...

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 6 days ago

i was thinking about this the other day. i know the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is disputed but i think there must be something to linguistic relativism. like, in english words describing wealth are all tied to "worthiness", and we talk about being wealthy as being more good.

in my language words describing wealth are all tied to effort: the ability and/or will to do something is "förmåga", and if someone is wealthy they are "förmögen", which i'm not entirely sure of the conjugation for but intuitively i read it as "has expended effort". this is a more neutral term, and our class divide has historically been much shallower than the anglophone world. of course this is mostly due to different social systems but... why were they put in place ho begin with?

[–] udon@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's weird how in English you say "he is worth x" if you just mean he has x money/assets

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is it not considered worth or net worth for you?

[–] udon@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I don't want to argue against the correctness of the sentence in English (I think you're correct with that). I'm just uncomfortable by the conflation of two meanings. This makes:

"He spent his last penny" technically the same as "He is worth nothing"

So a rich person is "worthy", which also means they are good, have achieved good things, and we are happy they exist. A poor person is "unworthy" and we can throw them away like garbage. That conflation is a problem to me.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 days ago

I'm from a primarily English speaking place and you're absolutely right. The phrase is completely bizarre. Like we could talk about assets, but we equate it to the person, and it's a phrase that comes from the upper echelons of the capitalist ruling class and now everyone uses it. Like we've all just accepted the reality that our society doesn't care about people unless they can pay.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago

Worth and worthy are very different words though.

[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What will it be once he gets his hands on the government? He is poised to line his pockets at an unbelievable scale.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Luigi needed more bullets.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's a little Luigi in all of us.

[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 9 points 6 days ago

I’d certainly like a little Luigi in me.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago

Bernie will remain our lost opportunity.

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Anyone know how this is being accounted for?

Which of his assets gained him like 200+billion in the last year?

I know twitter lost value after he financed it through the saudis, so he must have gained somewhere else, anyone want to save me a Google?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

this is stock value, and he gained the ~200B since the 6th of November.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (4 children)

So if I own a single dollar and tell everyone it's a trillion worth ... does that make me rich or am I a fool?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 14 points 6 days ago

a fool, until someone believes you.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

A fool unless you can convince an entire market that it’s a trillion dollars worth.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Look up unlimited money limited. It was a real company

Max Fosh is an absolute madman. Casually got the richest man in the world for like 2 days.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

No, it has to be something more imaginary than a dollar, and someone else has to actually give you a dollar for it while you claim it's only one trillionth of the amount of imaginary things you could sell to people.

Note a while ago a youtuber did a stunt to illustrate: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8SYIksrZeu4

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

In my opinion Elon is worth shit, but I'm no native speaker, hence I might be confused by the phrase.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago

And he’s just been put in charge of destroying all the things fed side that actually do help the working class.

This, our situation, could be worse. And this South African child of Apartheid has the power to make it so.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

worth at least that much more than them dead too

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is worth less than Vladimir Putin, and any number of Saudi Arabian royals

And his dad has still never loved/hugged/respected him.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

And he doubled it from last year... system is fucked

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago

Ultimately, there can be only one, which is why J. P. Morgan scared Andrew Carnegie quite a bit. They just didn't get to the part where Morgan would actively bring Carnegie to ruin.

The rich are tasty even to other rich, though they'll eat the rest of us first because we can't defend ourselves or escape.

[–] Breve@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago

I'm gonna laugh so hard when the billionaires start fighting. The leopards forgot they have faces too.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The actual fact is, xelon is really only worth 3 rubles. And he has some money. Chicken manure has more value than him.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

But he is the king you know, gotta treat 'im with respect.

\s

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

And that's just white declared. Ia nothong xompared to the amount of money some oligarchs has in black. Moving around in the not seen business