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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Does Musk actually care about Twitter any more?

It's served its purpose. It won the election for Trump. Musk will probably just focus on being Trump's puppy and let Twitter slowly die out.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ok, can we puh-leese stop talking about corporate media siloses on the fediverse? I keep seeing Elon's stupid mug plastered all over the media, can Lemmy be the exception, pretty please?

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We can stop talking about after we've destroyed it

[–] DoeJohn@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's quite ironic that for a lot of people "destroying twitter" means spending half a day there, finding rage-inducing tweets and sharing them on other social media sites just so they can enjoy the free traffic and engagement. It would be nice if we could, you know, ignore it and let it die.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

The Switzerland approach isn't going to work. It's datacenters must be rendered inoperable and disconnected from the grid and its billionaires made to flee to their bunkers.

[–] theTarrasque@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I Set up the content filter with „Elon“ and „musk“ which significantly reduced it. Now it’s just posts like these that remain. Can’t recommend enough!

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[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Content filters! I've got them for Trump, Elon, "Slammed", "Dragged", "Blasted" and the question mark, because news headlines in the form of questions can almost always be answered with the word "no" and are not worth my time.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

This is 100% the answer. My filter list is exhaustive and its curated a feed for me that doesn't actively destroy my mental health.

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Could bluesky have won over Mastodon because of the fediverse barrier where people doesn't know which server to choose?

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 94 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Bluesky is being run by a funded professional startup team and is aimed at the masses. Mastodon is run by activists and software devs and brings in other like minded folks.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Bluesky has an advertising budget. Bluesky has an entire team just working on User Interface.

The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.

"It's not my job to contribute to a community project" is just another way to say "it's not my job to make the world a better place."

[–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 days ago

It's generally easier for the layperson to pay a gym membership than it is to have the upfront cost of a barbell set and coordinating a schedule with their neighbor who owns a treadmill.

I don't want to sound too pro-corporate, I just don't want to fault others when they fall for the veneer of a "cohesive product." It takes a lot of work to organize a community project and why it's so special when they do come together.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

The fact that people are so lazy that they keep going for the corporate-sure-to-enshittify options shows how little people actually care about escaping corporate control of their lives.

It's not that deep.

People want to go where other people are. A tiny minority of them are even aware of the things that are influencing your decisions. Not a single moment is spent thinking about whether X or Y is more 'corporately controlled' before deciding to join a new platform.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Mastodon is confusing as shit though. They could have made is not as confusing, but this is what happens when you get backend only developers designing the front end of a product.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most importantly, Mastodon doesn't have the funding. It always astounds me how people miss that part.

Money lets you fix a lot of problems. Not all. But many.

Of course, it doesn't mean they'll succeed. Google+ had lots of money, too.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ugh, Google+ was so much better than Facebook. The whole circles concept was a game changer for social media that no one else has really adopted in a meaningful way. Half the reason millennials began to leave Facebook was not wanting their parents seeing what they're posting, so being able to decide which group can see a particular post was an awesome idea.

Sadly it just never got the adoption

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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

I use both. I've been on Mastodon for the better part of a year and only actively tried Bluesky the last couple months. My Bluesky feed is thriving, whereas Mastodon not so much. IMO this is due to Mastodon is missing the major quality of life features of Bluesky.

  • Add lists
  • Subscribable block lists
  • Custom subscribable topic feeds
  • Optional recommendation engine

These things make Bluesky very easy to get started with and more powerful even than Xitter was. It's simply a better product if you have any requirements other than federation. Getting a good feed up and running doesn't take more than an hour or two. Mastodon is a lot more work.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Subscribable block lists... I'm making an account.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (4 children)
  1. That was part of the reason. I tried explaining Pixelfed to my photographer dad and he completely lost interest when I mentioned instances and equated them to e-mail providers. Non-technical people don't like having to understand a technical aspect, and the nature of federation can't be avoided.

  2. Keep in mind that these are the people who stayed on Twitter after it was infested by the musk. They're leaving because it's turned into a dogshit service, not because of any kind of moral stance. They won't choose one service over another because it's libre or decentralized or community-operated. They'll flock to one that has a low entry barrier and high population.

  3. Speaking of which: Bluesky is where the people are. The merits of a social media provider are worthless if it has a fraction of the population of a direct competitor.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We should just point normal people to the biggest instance and never mention anything until they're settled in.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

It is the most viable strategy, but we did that with lemmy.world and now a third of the fediverse is screeching about censorship on the largest instance and directly shitting on LW users.

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Bluesky offers better access to the content people want with less effort. Mastodon was always going to lose that battle.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I think that's a good part of it, to be honest. Plus I think also helps that Bluesky's handles look visually less confusing and unusual than the conventional double @ sign for the fediverse

@user.bsky.social vs @user@bsky.social

Plus other things like having starter packs

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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That’s exactly it. People are bad at tech and do not understand it. If you even give them an additional option, this may confuse a tremendous amount of people enough to simply lose interest.

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Also helps it was created by Jack Dorsey.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who's now left Bluesky which is probably for the better given his views on a lot of things

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Its also able to pay for advertising and marketing

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I think it was mostly that Mastodon wouldn't send referer headers.

So when people look at where their traffic comes from, 50% would be unknown, 20% would be Twitter, 10% would be Bluesky, and most importantly, Mastodon would never show on that report.

(Numbers made up and inaccurate.)

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[–] net00@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The only thing I wanna see is the ElonJet guy back in a large platform, so that everyone gets easy access to the muskrat's location. That gets him specially angry as we've seen many times

[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would say musk got out of it what he could. Even if it went bankrupt I think he still got his money worth as mad as this sounds.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

He “lost” about 75% value of twitter, from $44bn to $10Bn Musk is worth ~$440Bn.

That’s like a normal person with $50k invested losing about $3500 on a stock. You’ll notice it. But it doesn’t change your day any.

(Dunno about the math, might be off)

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[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Good! Let's work to keep the momentum going and encourage everyone you know to boycott Twitter/X. If you still use Twitter/X make a post saying you can find me on Lemmy/Bluesky/Mastodon or whatever website/app you choose to replace it.

Don't let Elon Musk control you and your country, stop Twitter/X now!

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Elon is teasing about offering an email service on X... why would anybody give him access to all of your private information?

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

MySpace didn’t die overnight; didn’t it take like 8 years for Facebook to overtake it? Anecdotally in my group of friends, the big exodus from MySpace to Facebook took like 2 years from ‘08-‘10

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

It just occurred to me that the reason I don't remember those events, and have no basis to compare, because I had already left the platforms. Same for Digg.

I deleted my personal and business Twitter account the day Musk took over.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ahaha YES!

So unfortunate that it had to be this way though, Twitter was the perfect name for such a social media app.

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