Marx would totally write on the liberation of the outlanders rule : 196

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Okay but which great house does Marx join?

Edit: Trick question, he'd be an ashlander.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly Marx pretty well approximates Nerevar.

Had all the power to make a positive impact on the world and then three asshole dictators drag his name through the mud long after his death.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

...while he's high on skooma in a hole somewhere

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 days ago

Stark, probably? 🤷

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 6 points 6 days ago

He would prefer Skyrim, because Skyrim belongs to the Nords.

[–] cliffracerflyyy@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How can you kill a god?

[–] Mechanite@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Shame on you, sweet Nerevar.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can someone please explain the joke?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just a bit of absurdism. Modern-day leftists often fight over the legacy of Marx, who was hugely influential; the joke here is that "IF MARX WAS HERE TODAY HE'D-" and instead of "be 'x' ideology" it's "Enjoy a well-regarded classic game"

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah, thank you stranger. I feel kind of dumb now lol.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No worries! Sometimes memes seem like they might have some more subtle joke to them, but no, in this case it's just being silly.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I also tend to over think shit. Sometime a cigar is just a cigar.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

a cigar is just a cigar

I have never heard this saying before, what the fuck could a cigar be? Did someone think it was a worm? a stick? a bomb??

[–] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

it's a reference to a (possibly apocryphal? i'm not very well educated) anecdote about sigmund freud. freud had a hypothesis that basically any phallic object in a dream represents an actual phallus because supposedly basically everything in the human psyche is connected to sex. someone pointed out his fondness of cigars and he replied with the quote, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

It's a quote often attributed to Sigmund Freud. I don't believe he ever actually said it though.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

I want your psycho, your vertical schtick (hey)

When you're in Morrowind, oh, baby, that's sick

[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Referencing Marx is any fashion is tankie behavior?

[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Just consider it a warning for everyone here, is all. Praising Marx unprompted is definitely leaning into dangerous territory.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You may need to get out more. Marx is the father of modern sociology, a debt even Max Weber acknowledged. "Marx wasn't all bad" isn't a hot take outside of anywhere that doesn't hang a tattered, non-code compliant American flag from the front porch.

[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's not that everyone who appreciates Marx is wrong, no no no, it's just a nearly universal belief among all of the worst examples of human beings which are unfortunately swarming all over lemmy in an attempt to radicalize people.

So avoid that shit whenever possible.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Surrendering Marx because shitheads use him as an aesthetic is like surrendering the American flag because shitheads use it as an aesthetic. All you do in doing so is lending power to your enemies for no good goddamn reason. Even less justified, really, since Marx has pretty clearly stated inclinations, while the US flag is far more abstract.

Especially silly when half of the tankies on here haven't read enough Marx to fill a thimble, and regularly and blatantly contradict him.

[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If this were a sociology, philosophy, history, or similar academic community then sure...

but not making Marxist memes is the easiest fucking thing you can possibly do. Are you planning to tell me I'm being unfair to chastise you because you accidentally tripped, opened your laptop, and photo-edited this meme so it's not really your fault for picking the subject matter?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No. I'm telling you that surrendering symbols to the opposition just means that the opposition then benefits from that symbol. Fuck that. It's both cowardly and stupid. I'm not going to puss out of reposting memes with Marx just because some ML fucks think workers' democracy is for squares.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's your point? This meme is tankie because tankies like Marx? Makes no sense. This meme even has the original political statement removed from it as the main joke and you're talking about how it's tankie?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I were accusing the meme of being Tankie I wouldn't post a warning at all, I would just report it.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, if the meme's not tankie then you shouldn't need to give a warning at all...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Not even Tankies admit to being Tankies, you have to read the signs.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would urge you to block lemmy.ml if you think they're swarming. It's pretty much only there, I blocked .ml and omg it's been so nice here now

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That would prevent me from downvoting their posts but still allow them to show up in comments all over.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Marxism /= Marxist-leninism

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

≠*

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But

Marxist-leninism = Marxism

So better to stay away from it.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ironically that statement is not controversial on .ml because they want it to be true.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Marxism might not be Marxist-leninism, but you'd be ignorant to think Marxist-leninism isn't Marxism. Marxist-leninists praise Marx, end of story.

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Marx kinda based ngl

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Calling any mention of Marx "tankie behavior" is fairly close to Nazi behavior, ngl. You need to grow an ounce of critical thinking from this experience, or you'll turn into a loser who hangs out with fascists instead of punks.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what a tankie is and at this point I'm afraid to ask.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A tankie is an authoritarian communist, the kind of folks who play apologist for the Soviet and Chinese regimes running over protesters with tanks. Hence the name.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

cool not me then

I took a test once and it told me I was a filthy socialist.

It is my core belief that corporations need to be hit with big sticks regularly to keep them in check

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Well, a lot of us here would put it more along the lines of "Corporations need to be run by workers, not investors", but I think you're pretty safe from tankieism with that view.