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[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 149 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The public reaction is what scares them. They are entirely disconnected from the consequences their actions impose on the public and can't imagine why their "customers" would be cheering the death of their peer. They don't think Brian Thompson did anything wrong, maximizing shareholder value is a noble goal after all, so from their perspective the public just seems bloodthirsty.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Much like how DC politicians live in a bubble where they think everyone in the US has grocery options and plentiful healthcare (due to how business around DC structures these things so those "leaders" just assume all of the US is like DC), the C suite lives in a tone-deaf rich-person bubble with zero comprehension about what it is like to actually live in the shitty world they orchestrate and manipulate.

Reading some guff about the Kroger-Albertsons attempted merger was case in point. These corpos said: "Oh, if we don't merge, we can't compete against Walmart and Amazon, and we'll have to close stores." Like, no? What business goes, "hey, so we can't compete with adjacent-market companies, time to close up the places that generate our revenue!"

Or the recent Congressional vote to spend THREE BILLION OF OUR DOLLARS paying telecom companies to remove Chinese hardware from their networks. Something they were told to do years ago. The same carriers that will continue to raise our service rates every few months are making us (via Congress) pay them OUR money to do what they should have done themselves years ago.

None of these morons get it, they just keep corrupting their way to profits off of our backs, while digging out the ground we stand on from underneath us.

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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Are we not?

I am.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of finding out the taco bell executive used the phrase 'thinking outside the bun' in the I actual work correspondences.

To function in a big huge corporate c-suite level you must drink the cool-aid.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 97 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] alchemist2023@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this is good more of this please

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wow, I really feel like I should be clutching my pearls over the fact that this is what it's come to.

On the other hand...

Just like cops, these folks have earned every bit of hatred coming to them from the public. Even now they continue to pad their own bank account at a staggering rate on the deaths and misery of their fellow man.

If I were a healthcare executive with a conscience (lol I know), or even a healthcare executive with an adequate fear response, I'd resign tomorrow. (Or maybe yesterday?) I guarantee any of these folks has enough wealth to exceed the typical US lifestyle for the rest of their natural lives without having to take any more money for denying care to their fellow citizens. They can pack their shit, never work another day, and still spend the rest of their lives with less stress and greater financial security than my family ever will. There's literally nothing stopping them.

And if their "Type A" personality just can't let them spend multiple decades of their lives just relaxing with their family and enriching their inner self, they have a great resume to get a job at an industry that doesn't profit from the death and pain of their fellow citizens.

[–] brossman@infosec.pub 85 points 1 week ago (3 children)

so they're going to spend a whole bunch of the companies money on security firms, it's definitely going to come out of the executive compensation and not the workers, right? .....right?

[–] microphone900@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Ha! They'll take it from the workers AND raise the prices of whatever products they're selling then pass the cost onto us for a tidy bit of extra profit. The leeches have to suck as much blood out of us as possible.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 week ago

Owners have to make these officers feel secure again... so we will pay for the security... they can't have their comp cut just because some hero murdered their peer.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I'm pretty sure that was part of the point.

Legally, the murder was wrong. Full stop. There's no legal argument here that it wasn't. It may not have been the guy they caught, but someone was murdered and legally that's wrong.

Morally though, it's a lot more gray. It's pretty easy to prove that health insurers policies have literally been killing people thousands of people a year at at a minimum and even if it's legal for some reason, that's also still morally wrong. Attacking someone who's attacking other people is usually called defending.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (12 children)

The CEO was on his way to implement policies that would kill thousands of people, and injure tens of thousands.

I see no moral gray area.

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[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Legally, the murder was wrong. Full stop.

True but this was self defense. I don't see murder. Murder is the terminology of the regime who is trying to pin some crime on him that I don't see.

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

When peaceful and effective protest are a choose1, gotta go with effective. If anything, it seems to me to be little different to the trolley problem.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"forcing leaders to ask themselves uncomfortable questions about their own preparedness for a threat landscape that appears far more serious than many realized just a week ago."

It's probably even more serious than they think it is right now too.

In fact, all I see are talks of securing these executives. And as the article points out, security is a sunk cost. There is no financial gain. That means as security gets more expensive, they will have to weigh how to afford it versus the problems they cause.

Fear isn't the word I think we want though, fear seems too normal. Terror sounds closer to what they likely need to feel before things get better.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is exactly my thought. C-levels are going to want competent security and not Rent A Cops, which costs. Companies which provide those services already charge a decent chunk of change for it, and the rates will likely go through the roof now. Additionally, I think they'll find that these "security consultants" will suggest absolutely unacceptable lifestyle changes for them to minimize areas of concern. Much easier to secure a house than a whole nightclub, or golf course.

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[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you listen to the news segment, it talks about security completely and not about chnaging the corporate zeitgeist around the priority balance between workers, customers, and shareholders.

Hear that whooshing sound?

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Right? No introspection at all. I doubt the C-suite of Patagonia sees a need to increase security.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The revolution will not be televised

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It's sort of funny. All they are going to do is isolate the bastards into doing even more corrupt shit.

They really refuse to believe that the first part of finding out, is fucking around.

The more they fuck around and put profit ahead of everything, the more finding out I imagine is going to occur.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“There are reports that girls are fawning over this guy. This level of notoriety risks triggering copycats. And let’s face it, some business leaders are ~~vulnerable~~ complete fucking ass bags

Fixed that for em

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If somebody's got the itch and just has to go shoot up something this is a way, way better thing to copycat than school shooters.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 week ago

Amazing how we all can agree on this one simple thing....

Clean denial of claim to life to executives is socially acceptable

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

There's a lot of angry lonely men out there.

If there's anything that will motivate someone to kill it's the potential that women might give them attention.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Good, good.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Probably more fear from seeing how the public at large has reacted.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 25 points 1 week ago

People creating barbaric conditions are afraid of barbarians?

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Healthcare is the target now but who’s next?

Nope, insurance is finance. They don’t actually provide health care services.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Calling insurance healthcare is journalistic malpractice. Get better at your craft or get shit on.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I mean, when you've been actively supressing wages for decades so that you can keep your employees in debt to make them more subservient, you also kind of create a powderkeg of resentment and ill will. They really thought there would never be a spark?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 1 week ago

Good. I hope they feel the need to look over their shoulders every two seconds. I hope they lie awake in bed at night questioning every noise outside. I hope they'll home cook every meal themselves from now on.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

As scared as someone denied necessary medical therapy, surgery, prescriptions?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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