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The system will train AI to recognize piracy websites by analyzing their layouts, advertisements, and content patterns. It will also utilize image recognition to detect unauthorized use of manga and anime materials provided by publishers.

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[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Piracy is the best thing that happened to anime. Without it, anime and Japan wouldn't be nearly as popular.

They're shooting themselves on the foot. People discover anime and manga through piracy, and then if they love it, they end up spending money on it.

Just look at Berserk. I bet 90% of people who spent money on the mangas and all the deluxe editions discovered it through "illegal" means.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In South and Central America Goku is probably the second most recognizable male icon next to Jesus. Piracy includes bootleggers so you have to wonder if any of that is possible without piracy.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In South and Central America Goku is probably the second most recognizable male icon next to Jesus.

Are you sure about that? 1000042968

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who's that dude on the left? Okay so maybe third XD.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

idk who it is either, I'm guessing he plays sports because of the logos

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you are being serious, his name is Lionel Messi, an Argentinian native, and he is one of the most popular athletes world wide. He plays soccer but is towards the end of his career at this point as he plays in the United States professional soccer league, MLS, which is pretty much retirement for a player of his caliber. The jersey he is wearing is from FC Barcelona, in the Spanish professional soccer league, which is where he spent the majority of his career and gained his popularity. If you were joking then you got me haha.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nope genuinely never heard of him, thanks for the info

[–] riskable@programming.dev 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

massive financial losses due to piracy,

No. That's not "losses". It's just potentially lost sales. In reality though we call that, "wishful thinking". So to Japan’s Agency for Cultural Affairs I say:

Laughing fairy holding her hands in the air under the text, "Keep Wishing!"

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 11 months ago

I rather pay 10 dollars for Miru on the playstore to torrent anime effectively than to subscribe to netflix or whatever else gives people anime because they never have what I would want

Even though I don't watch anime anymore, manwha + music separates my work life and entertainment from my pc so I can't just work more effectively

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 34 points 11 months ago

Or in another words: how did some lame tech company sell a web crawler for a duck ton of money to a bunch of senile government employees because it had an AI sticker.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why not just provide better overseas support for anime and manga?

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Providing good service takes actual effort

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

I guess you're right. I guess I was thinking better service would equate to more sales /less worry about piracy

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know that quote by Gabe Newell that gets posted all the time in this comm? The perceptive one that we all like to treat as the end of the matter?

Well its truth is matched only by its extraordinary naivete. IP interests are not going to invest in competitive service delivery. They are going to invest in technical solutions that remove the need for competitive service delivery altogether. Only once the high-margin options are exhausted will they relent, and start the hard work of building something value-for-money. Doing the right thing is a last resort.

[–] incognito08@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

"It will also utilize image recognition to detect unauthorized use of manga and anime materials provided by publishers" If this somehow backfires and sites like CBR or TheGame fall victim to this, it will be very funny! but I hope this AI fails miserably!

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thats a way to kill a bit market to japan.

Anime become something thanks to piratery, if not it will be only a jp thing. If pirate anime sites stop existing. Japan will never sell a anime figure again overseas.

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunetly it might survive due to anime going mainstream. Alghtough only anime. Manga and light novels are going to burn.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Where do you get your light novels? Usually when I search for them they don't exist.

[–] incognito08@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

Just search using Yandex. Google and unfortunately DGG are anti-piracy nowdays so they are already horrible to search for this.

[–] Asparagus0098@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I get them from the Officially Translated Light Novels torrent from nyaa.si. If you don't want to use the torrent then you can use the mega link in the torrent description to DDL novels.

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

So how does one acquire the training data that this will use. It sounds like they are gonna gather "all" of the original copies from various publishers in order to train the AI. Would be a real shame if someone were to discover where that was being stored.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Assuming this s shit ai would not only work but be even remotely accurate.
Even assuming rorbots.txt isn't used,
It sounds as easy as any other method to circumvent.
I also find it kinda ironic Japan is so xenophobic the don't seek to realize that piracy is the reason anime became a worldwide thing to begin with.

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No shit. Way back when, we traded VHS tapes of fan-subbed anime across continents. I subbed two episodes of a show someone brought from Japan on laserdisc for a convention. This was the only way to watch anime back then. As fun as it was, nobody in their right mind wants to go back to all that hassle, so just provide legal options. If you build it, they will come.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

they never get it, like a mayority of pirates would buy if it was easy to do without hassle
as our god newel himself said

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

No but the piracy website just gonna include a robots.txt and now you're back to square dumb, Japan

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

Another reason to hate AI!

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago

Nyaa will prevail

[–] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

what will actually happen :