It's "refreshing" to see conservative leaders in other countries are just as insane and inept as they are in the West.
this post was submitted on 03 Dec 2024
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Both the majority party (which is the party of the president) and the opposition party are saying this is unconstitutional. So hopefully they have some actions they can take to curtail it.
It's really like a movie.
I mean in terms of how long it lasted lol
Well yeah, wouldn't you say something if the president said we should dissolve congress?
Yes but it’s not a given considering a good chunk of US politicians defend Trump doing something like this on Jan 6
This is huge, pinning for a bit.
Wat.
Well, glad it didn't work.
Didn't it? Sounds like things aren't getting better.
Uhh, I just read the summery. A moment.
The BBC reports the military isn't gonna listen to the vote
It's like 4am there though so might be quiet for a bit.
General strike called for by one of the big unions too until Yoon resigns
Jesus Christ.
Edit: Okay, he said he's going to withdraw it, like he's supposed to when the parliament votes for it, but this is such a whirlwind I have to expect the unexpected.
It is a good practice to doubt the pinkie promises of wannabe dictators
Yes, it sure is. In geopolitics there's no actual binding rules, just threats and relationships.
BBC is now reporting that the cabinet has lifted the martial law, which I assume means the immediate threat is over, without knowing how South Korean constitutional procedures work. There's still a damn lot of "pieces to pick up", though.
That should immediately end your turn as a president IMO.
That's pretty much what the parliamentarians are saying, it sounds like.
I hope they impeach that clown.
In all likelihood, that seems to be the case. I'd wager that since the people were shouting outside the parliament building that he should be impeached, plus that said parliament is mostly ran by the Opposition at this time, it's fair to call it. Plus the fact that their military said this: "Following Yoon’s announcement of martial law, South Korea’s military proclaimed that parliament and other political gatherings that could cause “social confusion” would be suspended, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said. The military said anyone who violated the decree could be arrested without a warrant."
Sounds like they need to clean house in the military leadership as well.
What if Trump tries to do it during his administration?
You mean like he said he would? It will be very, very bad.
Got a link without a paywall?
That has a paywall? It doesn't for me for some reason. Does this work?
Lol I'm not even safe in the archive version.
Yes, thank you! I'll need to bookmark that site.
If you're white, wear a lot of red, agree with stuff, hide anything remotely questionable and mind your p's and q's until the circus implodes.
If you're brown, Latino, gay, LGBTQ+... run far as fuck away, then keep running.
The easiest way to survive Kristal Nacht 2: Electric Boogaloo is to get outta there before it happens. Stockpiling some food and "hunkering down" isn't gonna keep you safe. Get outta there.
What does America offer that you can't get in Europe, Canada, Australia, etc?
Brain drain the fascist state to a standstill.
The earlier you do it, the higher your chances of being accepted into other countries. They may block American refugees if there becomes an exodus. It also means you have time to sell unnecessary items instead of possibly having to abandon them.
Good luck, whatever path you choose.
Oh yes, let me just move to another country so easily.
Please tell me which countries are taking refugees from the United States without needing to have first found employment and applying to immigrate through the normal process, without being explicit members of a protected class. Or even if you are.
Because to my knowledge, that doesn't currently exist. Meaning its only attainable for people already in the top 10% economically.
There is no refugee for Americans. The basis for refugee is an existing imminent threat, not a looming threat.
Your only chance might be places like Russia or China that would be happy to declare the US to be so dangerous they had to take you in as refugee for political gains.
Americans refugees in other countries...
Quite a show that will be...
But but but will the Americans cope up with the lifestyle of other countries which are thought to be beneath the mighty US...
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Start saving money and storing bulk dry goods. General strike, out and out street fights, who knows.
Just be ready to shelter in place or get outta wherever you are.
Whoa, I woke up to this
You'd think a military staffed by citizen conscripts would balk at something like this. Hopefully they hang the leaders out to dry before they decide they've got nothing to lose by couping.
Really, I'm more appalled at Yoon on this one. What kind of ignorant chump fails to gain the unquestionable support of the military before going all in on a military coup?
Coups are always gambles
In reality, if someone is a politician working within the state, they're not actually "anti-state".