this post was submitted on 25 Nov 2024
33 points (97.1% liked)

UK Politics

3142 readers
150 users here now

General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both !uk_politics@feddit.uk and !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

!ukpolitics@lemm.ee appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
tom@feddit.uk
GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk
flamingos@feddit.uk
frankPodmore@slrpnk.net
33
Starmer rules out another general election after petition reaches two million signatures (news.sky.com)
submitted 3 weeks ago by Emperor@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk
17 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Sir Keir Starmer has ruled out an early general election after a petition calling for a second vote reached two million signatures.

The petition was launched over the weekend and says there should be another vote, just four months after Labour won a landslide, because they have "gone back on their promises they laid out in the lead up to the last election".

By Monday mid-morning, it had reached two million signatures and was climbing fast.

But the prime minister said he would not be calling another election.

However, he said he was "not surprised" those who did not want to support Labour wanted a second vote.

...

Petitions on the government website are considered for debate by MPs after 10,000 signatures. Petitions get a government response after the tally reaches 100,000.

...

Over the weekend, MPs considered to be from the right of the Tories or from Reform UK, were urging people on social media to sign the petition.

Reform UK deputy leader Richard Tice and Conservative shadow business secretary Andrew Griffith were among those sharing the petition.

Donald Trump aide Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of X, reposted a link to a post which said it had got 200,000 signatures in a few hours. He wrote: "Wow."

Musk has previously spoken out against Sir Keir Starmer, calling him "two-tier Keir" over accusations police were treating communities according to their racial background in different ways.

all 18 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 33 points 3 weeks ago

Have we forgotten the 14 years of abject misery under Tory government already? People have short memories.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 26 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

gone back on their promises they laid out in the lead up to the last election

Maybe we should have another election after every election?

Maybe we should have another EU referendum, as the winning side definitely broke their promises.

Maybe we should just vote again on stuff simply because we don't like the result.

Maybe we should wait five years and then have another general election to decide if they should stay in power or not.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Switzerland says hi.

Democracy on steroids.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe we should have another election after every election?

The only chartist demand never adopted was yearly elections, so why not every year?

Maybe we should have another EU referendum

There was a similar petition about that, it got 4.2m signatures.

[–] hexbee@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't seem very fond of democracy, how very british of you.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm losing faith in it.

[–] hexbee@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well you definitely shouldn't have any faith in the British "democracy" because it's not one. Even pretending that it is one is difficult when the "House of Lords" is an institution that exists.

But if we actually tried doing democracy properly maybe it would be good. We actually haven't tried it yet. The ghouls in charge just use that word because of course they would. It's easy to stay in power as long as enough people believe the lie.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks like someone has got a taste for electoral interference.

You can tell how Xitter has become a silo of shithousery, because this is the first time I've heard of this.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 16 points 3 weeks ago

Musk is a weapons grade dickhead. Anyone half decent should get off his platform immediately.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I suspect the people signing this are the same who argued we couldn't have a People's Vote on the terms of leaving the EU

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I suspect most of the people signing it don't even live in the UK and are doing it for a laugh.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I suspect most of the people signing it aren't even people. Some of the signatures are probably dogs' pawprints.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It is genuinely disturbing how much far right BS is being pushed onto people on social media. Happily not as much here but my tiktok is covered with the farmers protest and how the government is failing us when they've been in charge for less than a year and the last party has literally brought the UK to thw breaking point. Absolutely ridiculous.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

People leaving millions to their kids and complaining the kids might have to pay the same tax as everyone else on the inheritance. Entitled parasites.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It is genuinely disturbing how much far right BS is being pushed onto people on social media

Which is why public lies spread with an intention to mislead the public should be a criminal offence.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Labour had 9.7m voters. Tories 6.8m

2m signing a pole dose not come close to representing the folks who did not vote for them in the first place.

Why the hell would anyone expect that number to cause a revote. If it did we would end up with genral elections every 6 months at least.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

Starmer needs to make this about foreign billionaires interfering in politics.