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Don't think I need to summarize this one. This is bad news for everyone.

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[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

earlier than initially projected

There's that phrase again. If only someone had warned us loudly and repeatedly.

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As a finn, I can live with -40 °C winters, let them come. At least the invading russians will drop dead like flies in the winter. Again.

[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

as a Canadian, I agree totally. -40 is wayyyy more tolerable than +40. I'll take Hoth over Tatooine any fucking day of the week

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

We need to be coordinating human effort across the globe on this above all else. China’s the only one taking it seriously right now.

The people defending the US tariffs on imports of Chinese solar panels are engaging in straight up climate change denial. We don’t have time for industry protectionism. Once the currents collapse, food chain collapse will follow shortly.

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 23 points 19 hours ago

Summer homes in Europe go up in value. A new market for winter apparel opens too. Just think to the potential market growth. This is going to make a few shrewd entrepreneurs very wealthy. The planet will suffer, but man think of the money.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

B-but the oil lobbyists at COP told me amoc won't be affected

[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I gotta stop using chrome on my phone 😔

[–] styxem@sh.itjust.works 24 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Mildly fitting though. "Ecological collapse is imminent; please buy more products."

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Ecological collapse is imminent; please buy more products

If there is a better epitaph for Humanity, I have not heard it.

Can we Laser etch this quote onto the moon's surface before the last human dies please?

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The alien visitors to this planet will sort through the ruins of its extinct species and will be told to buy more things. By computers still running, still marketing.

They will shrug their shoulders and wonder what that means, and if it helped the inhabitants.

[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Ritual purposes.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)
[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox mobile supports ublock origin

[–] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only on android unfortunately.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Earth will survive and the humans will get what they deserve.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Millions of species will go down with us, some already have been relagated to extinction by our actions.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (17 children)

The dinosaurs got wiped out and new life flourished. The same will happen again.

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Humanity will be just another dead branch on the tree of life

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

at least its self-pruning

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Humans are pretty resilient. Adaptable to any climate, even the mess of a climate we created.

Now, I'm not saying that all 8 billion of us will survive.

What I'm saying is, the minimum viable genetic population for humans is about 2000 individuals.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I thought it was 500. I think I even read that 50 might be enough by some estimates.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

50 if you're carefully planning breeding.

2000 for a good chance to persist long-time under normal breeding conditions

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I've seen some of the same estimates. I settled on 2K because that's what is estimated to have survived the To a supervolcano. Or rather the non-African population that survived.

Homosapiens in Africa actually did quite well comparatively.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

When food runs out for even a portion of those 8 billion, results are gonna be nasty.

It's hard to talk about climate initiatives when 1/3 of the planet is shooting eatch other. In worst case with nukes.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yep, there will always be humans as long as there is literally anything we can hunt/forage and eat.

If that will resemble what we perceive as civilisation is another question entirely.

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Basically it's too late to stop the process. Even if we switched to renewables entirely, there will be a lag. That lag is now in a positive feedback loop.

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 2 points 18 hours ago

Not to mention the tipping point where it is no longer reversible. And even worse, the huge effect that the current has on basically the whole of the globe!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 123 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah like the science community was saying 10-15 years ago.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If only we knew about this 50 years ago, surely we would have done something!

Big Oil: side eye Muppet meme

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fun fact: They knew since the 1950s and have been lying about it for over 70 YEARS!

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I remember some of the early research showing this when I was in college in the late 90s/early 00s. It's mostly following the worst-case scenario models from the time, except 50 - 80 years ahead of schedule.

[–] omgarm@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago

I started watching The Nanny a few days ago (have seen a lot on tv, but never everything) and in one of the first episodes they make a joke about being worried about Global Warming. It was lighthearted, not very serious. That was 1993.

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

So, what does this all mean for us? It means we have even less time to get our act together. Reducing emissions isn’t just a good idea — it’s crucial.

I don't think this will motivate countries to dramatically increase emissions reduction efforts, but I think it will motivate countries to begin geoengineering. Geoengineering is cheaper and easier than rapid emissions reduction, and the results are more immediate. Yes, it doesn't solve the core problem, which is the concentration of GHGs in the atmosphere, but it treats the symptom, albeit temporarily. Why put a lot of time, money, and effort into fixing the core problem when you can spend comparatively less time, money, and effort just treating the symptom? Then you can just pretend the core problem doesn't exist and go about business as usual.

Edit: sorry, I should have added the /s.

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