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    Windows VS Linux (part 2) (lemmy.world)
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    [–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    I'm preparing for a new computer build and I have some questions. I'm feeling really scorned by Windows 11 and its incompatibility with my current hardware as well as the overall sense of that my privacy is being invaded. I'm not super familiar with linux, but I have messed around with various distros.

    The build I'm planning to put together will likely use an AMD processor, but I'm uncertain about the GPU (definitely AMD or Nvidia). With my current build, RX 480 and i5-6500 I have found that in recent years I get massive artifacts in relatively old games such as Planetside 2 and Path of Exile (I also play Magic Arena quite a bit, but haven't experienced any issues there). I even get screen tearing when watching youtube or amazon prime. It's possible that my card is just dying, but considering that I don't consistently see these issues across multiple applications I feel like it might be a driver issue.

    I'd really like feedback and to know more about Linux gaming (especially with the games mentioned) as well as experience with AMD, Nvidia, and Intel hardware.

    Thanks to anyone who responds.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 47 minutes ago

    For me, nvidia with proprietary drivers works great, just make sure to have correct dependency packages installed for vulcan etc. (should just work in most distros if their recommended way of installing nvidia drivers is used)

    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    IDK, but I more often had issues with installing apps to Linux than to Windows, usually dependency-hell related ones, but once I had trouble enabling snap on Linux Mint.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 42 minutes ago

    Mint activity tries to protect you from using snap.

    [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago

    If you're enabling Snap on Mint, you might as well install Ubuntu.

    [–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

    but once I had trouble enabling snap on Linux Mint.

    Seems like a win

    [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

    When you make fun of something that really isn't an issue it just makes your side look worse. Windows has real problems, but installing shit ain't it.

    My dad can install anything on windows with clicks, he can't do shit with a terminal.

    I'm a power user and love GUIs. I'll use git desktop all day everyday, instead of typing shit in a command line. It's one button press vs typing paths and hoping you don't misspell shit.

    I don't really get the whole command line fetish, there are no extra points in life for doing things the harder way.

    [–] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

    Ah, yes. I also love it when I search for firefox on my new PC with Edge (without adblocker) and get sponsored malware in the results.

    I still use windows but I think installing software on Linux is way more convenient. Especially with the AUR.

    [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Yay -S app is hard? Or apt install app? Or flatpak?

    Being used to a habit doesnt make the habit the default way. Humans adapt quickly.

    [–] durfenstein@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    apt install funbox funbox not found apt install fun-box fun-box not found apt install openfunbox openfunbox not found Google openfunbox "use apt install open-funboxxx"

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 39 minutes ago

    That is way yay is superior 🤓

    [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    All of that is harder than a double click, yes.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 38 minutes ago

    There are not msny apps installed in windows using only a single double click…

    [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Ok i double clicked on my desktop, nothing happened. Can you elaborate?

    [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    You'll figure it out. You seem very bright.

    [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    You don't

    [–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

    Pot calling kettle black.

    [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

    You are as clever as you are wise.

    [–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    A simple analogy is, would you rather have keyboard with a-z and symbols you can use to build words/sentences, or would you want a wordlist you can scroll and click, while expanding words in groups, and having to find non-frequent words with a lot of difficulty to make up sentences.

    Command line use is harder if you come from gui. But the main use case of command line are:

    • automation: anything you can do in a command line, can be copied in a script,
    • uniformity: every software now has almost the same format of use,
    • flexibility: gui almost always has less options than command line, and many times options are hidden within a lot of tabs and options.
    • Auto complete: whenever someone complains about terminal being hard to use and spelling mistakes I think about this. I think many people that come from GUI don't know about auto-completion on terminal. It's easy to see which options are available, easy to choose files, wildcards for multiple files, and all that
    • piping: command line allows you to chain one command with another. You have a command to list all your music files, chain that with a search command to search files within them. Now if you need to search in a python code, you use the same search command, just different command to read the file. You basically have lego blocks (old ones) that can be used to make anything.

    I can understand people being afraid of command line when they start, but I think many people come with biases and don't use good terminal and other tools to make things easier.

    [–] x00z@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

    Check the name of this community again.

    [–] bradd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

    Power users are just regular users with an ego.

    GUI is like fast food, sure you can eat it and enjoy it, and you will live to see another day, but it's inferior in every way to everything else. The real problem is that people start acting like fast food is the default food and start looking at people who eat raw or cook their own food or pay for food at a restaurant as being full of themselves.

    There are countless real advantages to CLI over GUI, but allowing people to use their computer effectively by fumbling around isn't one of them.

    [–] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    I think mixing app and system dependencies is a bad idea, and Linux desktop is still fighting that.

    When all the apps on a consumer laptop is expected to depend on the same dependencies, the system likely run into dependency hell, which means many apps needs to be downgraded in order to keep older apps working.

    This mixture of system dependency and app dependency also prevents users to use the the latest version of an app on a hyper stable base system.

    Flatpak basically aim to solve this problem, where each app chooses their own dependencies, so you don't need to downgrade all your app just because one app depends on python 2.7.

    [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 20 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

    I can't remember the last time I got a DLL error on my Windows laptop, honestly. I don't think that's ever happened on my current computer.

    [–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

    The last time I got a DLL error was back in Windows 98 ffs.

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    [–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

    Been using Linux off and on since 2003-ish. I remember the days of having to compile applications and having to download various dependencies. Linux now is so streamlined and easy. Minus gentoo.

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