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[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 50 points 3 days ago

The voters have been pretty clearly telling the DNC that they want a different sort of candidate since 2016.

And since 2016, the DNC, more concerned with keeping the corporate soft money flowing than with actually winning elections, has refused to listen.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When the actual economy is good, voters like a pro corporate government because they're reaping some of the rewards.

When "the economy" which only cares about stock prices is the only thing doing well, voters don't like corporations because nothing is even trickling down for them anymore.

For some reason Biden and Kamala insisted on saying that the economy was great.

All Kamala had to do was ovary up and say she disagreed with Biden on some topics, and she believed she could improve the country more in four years than Biden had in his. She could have even thrown out a "thanks to a good starting point" if she wanted to play nice.

Instead she literally said she wouldn't have done anything different, and then acted shocked when people treated her as just as liable for Biden's mistakes.

She ran with Biden, the smart move was to frame it as her running against Biden to undercut trump's message as the anti-establishment candidate.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

the smart move was to frame it as her running against Biden to undercut trump’s message as the anti-establishment candidate.

Exactly. The fact is that the DNC, their consultants, and their apologists in mainstream and social media, do not know how to win elections. They were insistent on these strategies that many were saying were obvious failures (at the time), and are only more obviously failures after the fact.

If you were a consultant on this campaign: you should never get a job in politics again.

If you were a media head congratulating Kamala on the "most successful campaign of all time" (I mean, she got Queen Latifa right? Nobody gets Latifa /s), no one should ever listen to you again.

If you were on Lemmy or any other social media defending these shitty strategies, or using the now painfully idiotic rhetoric of Blue No Matter Who, no one should ever take you seriously.

Pay attention to who got it right before hand and who got it wrong. Stop listening to the idiots who got it wrong, and especially stop listening to those who were told they were getting it wrong and proceeded anyways.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's that they don't know how to win; I think that they're unwilling to do what is necessary (i.e. give up on neoliberalism and piss off big business donors) to win.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

If you're at the top of a system, giving up the system is a loss state in and of itself.

Blue No Matter Who is more of a Better Dead Than Red thing imo