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    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I love Debian, but it's installer is shit.

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    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (12 children)

    I've never "debloated" Windows so idk about the top half.

    The bottom half is accurate. Debian, Fedora, and Mint are easier to install than Windows 10 or 11. Not that Windows is difficult, it's just a bit clunky and idiosyncratic.

    I assume Microsoft doesn't care much about the installer since it's generally only used by OEMs, whereas for Linux distros it's a first impression so it has to be polished.

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    No excuse though. Try the "install as oem" of Linux Mint. You get an install with temporary oem account, you can update the system, install additional programs, then click "Prepare for shipping to end user" and on next boot you're greeted with a setup screen.

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    That sounds pretty nice. More installers should have something like that

    [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

    It's very user friendly. I switched last year and haven't looked back. I game on it constantly.

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    [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Almost everyone using Linux installed it. Almost no one using Windows installed it.

    [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    You don't think that many people build their own Windows PCs? Linux gaming isn't that old in the grand scheme of things, and there's plenty of people who dual boot for various reasons.

    I'd almost be willing to bet that there are more people who've installed Windows on their PC than there are people who've installed Linux from a pure numbers standpoint.

    [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    Most gaming PCs are pre built. Boutiques have been a business for decades. And every major PC OEM has a gaming division.pc building is niche.

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    [–] Txmyx@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Installing windows takes stupidly long. You have to click through 60 pages and click "No, i don't want to share my data" just for them to collect it anyway

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    [–] robocall@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

    Why do all my homies use Linux Mint while I use Ubuntu?

    [–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

    Cinnamon is nice. But then I meet KDE...

    Honestly, if you're happy with Ubuntu, don't worry about what other people think. A lot of the (valid) complains of Ubuntu require research to understand why to be outraged.

    I personally only use immutable now (bazite, aurora and steam OS) and I wouldn't have it any other way now.

    [–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

    Because you're wrong?

    Personally I don't like snaps, is the main thing.

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    [–] tsugu@slrpnk.net 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    They might simply like Mint's Cinnamon over Ubuntu's GNOME. That's a valid choice.

    [–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Cinnamon with Wayland is still in testing. X11/X.Org is unmaintained software and is less secure than Wayland. GNOME is the only desktop at the moment that actually protects the screen from arbitrary recording by applications. Just food for thought.

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    [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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    [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago

    Maybe, but Linux will fuck up that boot partition within a year and any non-techie will be screwed.

    [–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

    With archinstall script you can install Arch in less than 1 minutes (not counting copying system files)

    I installed it following a guide where it had me doing my own partitions and encryption using LUKS in around 30 minutes.

    [–] schwim@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago

    What an absurdly sycophantic graph.

    [–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 day ago (17 children)

    I can agree that installing Arch is easier than installing a debloated Windows. But Gentoo? I spent 2 weeks trying to install it, but couldn't get past partitioning the drive.

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    [–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

    1000017289 Installing gentoo

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