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    Windows VS Linux (lemmy.world)
    submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by trespasser69@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     
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    [–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 25 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Install windows, run debloat powershell script. Done.

    Microsoft give no shortage of things to complain about with needing to exaggerate.

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    [–] arc@lemm.ee 17 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

    I don't even know what this graph is even supposed to mean. Bitch about Windows all you like but the installation process is typically very simple.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago

    There is no X axis so I'm going to assume it means potatoes per guinea pig

    [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

    I guess it means that no one here knows what Windows Debloated is and didn't read far down enough to see regular windows marked as very easy to install.

    [–] scholar@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Boot off usb, create partitions, wait, spend five screens clicking 'no' on all of the options, unplug ethernet so it allows you to make a local account, wait, login, spend 15 minutes uninstalling all of the preinstalled nonsense, disable all of the advertising on the task bar and desktop, pretend the rest of the telemetry doesn't exist, download and install the latest drivers from each manufacturers website. Very simple.

    [–] Luccus@feddit.org 8 points 6 hours ago

    Man. Last time I just wanted to check if my new laptop was working properly, so I booted up it's preinstalled Windows. I literally had to look up how to get Windows to get me into Explorer without creating an account or connecting it to my network.

    It took me about 25 minutes and Windows was already installed on the damn thing.

    It took 15 minutes from booting a prepared Fedora stick to logging in.

    I honestly believe that, by now, Linux is no more difficult than Windows. People are just not used to the differences.

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    [–] Johanno@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

    Hey! You missed nixos!

    First time install for smb. Double the windows Bar.

    Second time (if you backed up your config file)

    No bar!

    [–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 37 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    Biased as fuck lol. Installing windows is not difficult. I did it first time at the age of 8 witn WIndows 98 and their newer installers are made so the general public can do it. And the bloat and spyware? Thats windows dude. Its not meant to be your OS, its meant to spy on your ass at the benefit of being familiar and (relative) easy to use. Anything you do to it post clean install is your own tinkering. Linux distros are great yall, but install difficulty is not a metric I would use to attack windows. Comparing between distros makes sense.

    [–] dolle@feddit.dk 4 points 6 hours ago

    It can be quite difficult for puzzling reasons. I bought my laptop with no OS because it was cheaper to buy a Windows license separately. I downloaded the ISO and put it on a USB drive and ... It wouldn't boot. It took me half a day and I had to follow guides with various black magic which I can't even recall what was about to finally get the thing to boot from USB. After spending over a day on that, I installed Ubuntu and set up dual booting in about 30 minutes.

    [–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    This doesn't say it's difficult, just says there are others which are less difficult. Even if you accept everything at default, windows installs take much longer.

    I'm not sure why you even think this is an attack on windows really. You keep saying windows is for those who want easy to use, so why not include the whole process?

    [–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

    Longer != difficult. Windows installs are easy as fuck and id say its as simple as linux mint.
    The debloating is a choice and id say thats the same amount of work as installing stuff in linux because what it comes with is very limited.
    Im a linux mint user btw

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    [–] arc@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

    Linux has made leaps and bounds with usability and ease of installation but it's no better than any other modern OS - which is a good thing. Installing Windows from a USB stick is not difficult - the simple path is literally, pick a language, select your wifi, choose who is logging in, click install and go grab a coffee. About the only difficulty if you can call it one is that some installs will ask for a serial number because it's a commercial product.

    Also, the number of questions & buttons during installation is one thing but the certainty of a functioning system is another. Linux is better at supporting old hardware, Windows is better at supporting new hardware. Choose accordingly if that matters.

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    [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
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    [–] 01011@monero.town 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Arch is probably easier to install than Debian nowadays.

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    [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 45 points 13 hours ago (20 children)

    Windows requires pressing next 12 times, what are you people smoking and can I haz?

    [–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 21 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    There's also a number of things you have to click "no" on, like a free trial office or Onedrive.

    It took me around an hour to set up my new Win 11 laptop, most of which was downloading and installing updates. I expected far worse.

    [–] arc@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    And downloading updates is a good thing. Means that the fresh installation isn't vulnerable to something that was fixed between when the USB / DVD was pressed and the time the person installed it.

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    [–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

    Oh please, we spend an hour fucking around in a new Linux install to get things the way we like them too.

    [–] ftbd@feddit.org 6 points 8 hours ago

    No, see: some of us spend countless hours setting up their NixOS config repo, which is totally worth it because you save half an hour when moving to a new machine

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    [–] pavlo101@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

    I call bullshit. It only took me 3 hours to compile and install gentoo on my latest build and get proper desktop environment working. Granted I'm still tweaking the config files 4 years later, but it's perfect!

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