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Supposedly, an RS-26 was launched from Astrakhan and targeted at infrastructure in Dnipro.

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[–] smokeysnilas@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So this is confirmation then that the storm shadow strike hit someone important?

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[–] Patch@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Seems like a bit of a waste to launch an intercontinental missile at a country next door, on the same continent. Isn't Russia supposed to have plenty of short and mid range ballistic missiles? I guess they must be running low.

I was under the impression that ICBMs weren't all that great for conventional warheads. Their payload capacity isn't enormous and their accuracy tends to be relatively low- which matters not a jot if you're firing nukes (which do a lot of bang per kilo, and where a few hundred metres either way isn't likely to be critical), but not so great for dropping normal munitions.

[–] Streetlights@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I suspect the use of an RS-26 was meant to serve as a provocation/response to the recent ATACMs strikes.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

I posted elsewhere about the rumour Russia was going to fire an RS26.

I got called a liar and warmonger.

Well, my next prediction remains the same: Russia WILL eventually use nukes. Because there will come a moment of "use it or lose it", and Russia prefers a destroyed world over an intact one without Russia.

[–] Streetlights@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's still a few steps left on the escalation ladder.

Conceivably I can see them detonating a nuke somewhere over the blacksea at a high enough altitude to minimise fallout as a demonstration that they are serious and have the capability.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I think they would use a tactical one in Kursk since it's "their" territory.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

Russia: launches nuke…

West: does nothing because they don’t want to start WW3

Russia: that’s what I thought bitch

Seems to be the way things are going.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Russia prefers a destroyed world over an intact one without Russia.

That much is true, but none of this is existential. If the Russian military packs up and heads home, Russia continues to exist. They don't want to do that ofc, but obviously Russia prefers an intact world with Russia compared to a destroyed world.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

This missile is only "Intercontinental" if you launch it from the edge of a continent. It's got about 6000km of range, which is a lot, but these are obviously meant for use in Europe. They were probably thinking of London and Paris when designing them though.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

It was to send a message similar to how the Iranian drone attack on Israel in April was to send a message that they can launch a bunch of $2,000 drones and cause Israel to have to launch $2 million missiles and aircraft to take them out.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

These missiles are designed with Western Europe in mind. Specifically, to deter them from coming to help Eastern Europe.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

IMHO they might be just making a threat this way. Kremlin folks think that's the way diplomacy works. See, we've launched a missile that can be used to send nukes. That's our very subtle and diplomatic warning. We both understand what that means, yes? Let's look very smart and diplomatic.

They may think that looks cool.

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

How do we know this is the first and not just the first successful launch?

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[–] errer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m curious how the allies know an ICBM isn’t a nuke

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 22 hours ago

You don't, which why (aside from cost) nations don't use them as toys.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You wait till it explodes and check the NDDS.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dyatlov: What does the dosimeter say?

Akimov: 3.6 roentgen. But that's as high as the meter...

Dyatlov: 3.6 - not great, not terrible.

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Intressting. So by delivering more of them to Ukraine we lower Russias arsenal.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ukraine has not received ICBMs, articles stating Ukraine has received long range missiles are wrong, Ukraine has only received SHORT ranged missiles. up to 300 miles. It's longer range than artillery, but not long range missiles. Long range missiles have several thousand miles range.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obviously. ICBMs are pretty much useless to Ukraine and without nukes to Russia as well. They are acurate enough to destroy something using a nuke. So missing by a few hundret meters is fine. With conventional explosive that is however pretty much useless.

This is most likely the answer for Biden allowing the use of those short range system and it would be wonderfull to see Russia blow up its nuclear missiles for nothing.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Obviously. ICBMs are pretty much useless to Ukraine

Absolutely.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

That's interesting.

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