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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I warned of exactly this when they were talking of passing a law that would allow the government to immediately dissolve any nonprofit that "helped terrorists"

I was called overdramatic

[–] Ruorc@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm always reminded of this book in these instances.

"In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have."

... It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D."

They Thought They Were Free The Germans, 1933-45 Milton Mayer

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ugh goddammit.

Don't get me wrong, great quote.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is my biggest fear in this whole situation. This law could easily be twisted into branding anyone who criticizes Trump online a terrorist.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) [aka Fuckface 45, Fascist 47] is an American fascist pig, and can fucking die in a fire, for the benefit of mankind.

Not could be, will be

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

~~could~~ will

The question is how long until.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Probably a 3am tweet during his first week. Reads a critique and says something about being the most loving president ever and that this person is trying to keep him quiet using terrorist tactics.

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I've got nothing going. May as well die for that cause.

Similar conversations were held regarding Patriot Act, etc. At least some folks speak up.

Inb4 the Internet Archive gets declared a terrorist organization.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hegemony conflates anti-semitism with anti-zionism in order to justify these kinds of attacks on people who resist colonialism, genocide, etc. Not to mention stuff like the green scare, etc. These attacks are supported by "both parties".

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

He has to ensure loyalty to the Party...

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Fascists play opposite day. They don't just plain lie. Whatever the truth is, they invert it.

Direct assault on reality. Fight back in part by saying obvious true kindergarten shit everywhere all the time.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

From the party that had "we are all domestic terrorists here" on a sign.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

i'll hang it next to my 'banned from r/conservative' and 'banned from r/The_Donald' awards.