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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

To declare a "National Emergency", he probably needs a cause. How does American law deal with those "National Emergency" situations? Does he need some proof? Does he need confirmation from somewhere?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I'd say that the Overton Window is certainly weaponized by the right-wing.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Gee, I wonder what the solution will be if other countries wont take our undesirables.

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[–] m_f@midwest.social 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wrong community. This dystopia is about get real interesting, real fast 😬

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I would've rather had it not be a dystopia, but silver lining and all that.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 172 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Hey, anybody remember 12ish years ago when Alex Jones' worst fear was that Obama was going to use executive power to order the military to be deployed on American soil, violating Posse Comitatus, to massively round up and inter a bunch of Americans in FEMA reducation / death camps?

Anyone?

No one?

Whoo boy, growing up in a fundamentalist Christian household where I was the only one to go to college and everyone else became a Q Anon zombie sure was fuuuunnnnn!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

With conservatives every accusation is just projection

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't beat Trump's brand of fascism with spineless morally flexible subservient people. People are going to have to fight back do what they can. Dems are already rolling over in advance and some are going to fight with what resources they have. It is going to be rough.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago

The dems are the wimpy kids who internalized being nice to their bullies will somehow earn them respect and show they are the better people. In reality their abusers only hold them in even more contempt and spit at them at every turn.

[–] dorumon@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Please deport me harder orange man.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 37 points 3 days ago (14 children)
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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 3 days ago (14 children)

When again are americans using their right to bear arms to protect themselves against an authoritarian government? If you dont do it now never again use this argument for the second amendment.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A lot of Americans don't feel this is authoritarian and actually welcome it. They would love to have Trump as president for life.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If any of us actually find ourselves in that situation, it would be unwise to post about it on the internet, even if someone is calling you a phoney.

Every post we make here is getting recorded by the NSA.

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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don’t forget to put all the books in a pile and set fire to them. And smash their shop windows.

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[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 32 points 3 days ago

Nice, by the book. The fascist admin guide as seen in most of Europe, recently

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He’s not going to succeed at his goals unless he essentially suspends the constitution. Which I wouldn’t put past him necessarily but for now these headlines are pretty sensational.

Everybody is protected by the fifth amendment regardless of citizenship status or if they are here “legally” or not. We’re all entitled to due process and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure so long as we’re standing on American soil. Running after families just minding their business and demanding papers please is far fetched. Going after already established criminals however is a lot easier and low hanging fruit. And I’m not talking about people who’s only crime is being here illegally, I’m talking about people who are that + another crime. And sorry but I don’t feel sympathy for those people who make life harder for everyone else…

Even if they do go after everyone they don’t have the infrastructure in place to process people. The highest deportations happened under Obama (take that, hysterical pissing in their pants liberals) at 230k a year and the system was barely functioning and is further backlogged now than ever. How the fuck is trump gonna manage to deport a million a year?

He’s full of hot air. Hell deport criminals and claim a win.

[–] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would be honestly less concerned if I thought the administration would be successful in deporting people. I think you're relying heavily on "due process" here, when the reality is they can just accuse you of a crime, deny you bail, and then hold you pretty much indefinitely. You let the ones who can get lawyers out and you've pretty effectively filtered the population for wealth.

The Nazi death camps started as temporary internment camps with the intent to deport Jews eventually.

Then they just ended up with a whole bunch of people in camps with nowhere to send them and were like, "well, we might as well get some work out of some and kill the rest" and it sort of escalated from there.

Which with their "camps for the mentally ill, homeless, and drug addicted" and "deportation emergency" sounds alarmingly similar.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

First sentence: unless he suspends the constitution

I’m not saying the rhetoric isn’t concerning, I’m saying he doesn’t have the machine set up to make it happen. Could it happen? Absolutely.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes a Year

If he actually succeeds in doing this, guess who’s going to be made to fill in that hole.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you lived in the 80's, you know where you're going with this.

Prisons. Good old indentured servitude.

Get ready for more jaywalking arrests.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is step one to collapsing Social Security and Medicare.

Knee cap all the funding from folks who never collect on it, then say, see? It’s collapsing earlier than we thought.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 109 points 3 days ago (34 children)

Drive through rural America and see how many underpopulated small towns there are. Shuttered businesses for lack of customers. Abandoned buildings. These places need people.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 93 points 3 days ago (24 children)

We tried this before and it sucked then, too.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 57 points 3 days ago (36 children)

How are people going to be selected for deportation? This feels eerily like what Hitler started doing with Jews.

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[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Well at least we're getting close to a somewhat interesting dystopia. /s

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