Can I get that written in a contract?
this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2024
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Yeah, I remember when Reddit promised similar things...
......for now.
"Bluesky has not been offered enough money to scrape user data for AI"
The API is so cheap someone is going to do it anyways...
That's my biggest issue with AI. Now all the APIs want me to pay to use them. Originally the API was an incentive to get engineers to build features for their sites without having to pay them. The engineers get data they need to build their thing and the company providing the API gets free product features and user acquisition. It was mostly a fair trade. Now the companies see a few other companies using that data to train API and make a fortune so their reaction is to charge a fortune for the API. Totally disregarding the previous arrangement. If you are an engineer working on something unrelated to AI you are basically shut down from using any APIs that provide useful data. Everything is locked down now when it once was open. It's so sad. It makes learning more restrictive
To be fair, "they" could probably train AI on Lemmy data, they just won't ask for permission and won't be charged for it
AI is 100% being trained using Lemmy.
Won't train AI on your posts ~~until we reach critical mass of users~~.
Nah, first you gotta get comfortable for a couple of years.
It's basically pig butchering for social networks.
They also said it was decentralized which is not true.
I don't believe this.
well there's a protocol but everyone is on the main one, i don't think theres even a non personal instance.
Yeah, I looked into it and the backend is proprietary, so the central owner can restrict features. Like for instance independent instances can only have 10 users.
It's "decentralised" except only in extremely limited scope, the code is centrally controlled and the network remains largely, functionally centralised.
They're capitalising on the decentralised, federated buzz while doing it so poorly they're setting up users to say "oh people tried decentralisation, it doesn't work, look at Bluesky".
If it's not open source, it's not decentralised.
Bluesky is VC backed. They'll want to make money down the road, and they'll definitely train AI soon if not already.
Maybe the VC's are dying soon and they wanted to do something useful with their exorbitant wealth before they die
Funny!
Lol
Yet
Well, it will train it's AI on everyone else's posts. Just not your posts.
It's open to the public. So, many other orgs are certainly doing it anyway.
The same can be said of lemmy, mastodon or any publically accessible forum
Absolutely. I worked somewhere where we routinely had alarms go off due to botnets swarming us with weird (and obnoxious) massive download tactics (of publicly available user generated content, that is).
If it can be gotten by anyone, it will be gotten by LLM trainers.
I've yet to hear a good argument for why it matters even if they did. I've made thousands of comments on Lemmy that are free for anyone to grab and do anything they want with. If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.
If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.
there's the catch: it's for people. not robots, not billionaires
Why is this taking off but not Mastadon?
Better marketing
Which marketing and better how, exactly?
Can anyone please point me an example of Bluesky marketing that isn't word of mouth or large-event headlines on the news?
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Barrier of entry is marginally lower. With mastodon you'll have to make a decision on what instance you're creating your account. With Bluesky there's just Bluesky.
With bluesky ,the sign up has a section where you choose a server. The bluesky server is prefilled. Otherwise you add your own.
But not having that default option and instead having to have the user go research and figure out which server to use is an immediate turn off.
Mastodon has one big, official node, too, though: joinmastodon.com.
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Lol okay. Sounds good, bro.
But did they pinky promise?
Why not? Are my posts not good enough for you Mr Bluesky?
Who owns this? Another insane rich, right wing techie?
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