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  • A new patch is being quietly pushed to Windows 10 (and 11) PCs
  • It’ll force upgrades in certain circumstances to keep the PC in support
  • This update will mean more nag prompts coming to your PC
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[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Why are they pushing so hard for people to upgrade? I don't understand

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 110 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Capitalize the computer, socialize your hardware.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Microsoft: your computer, my choice

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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Stuff like this is why I disabled the TPM on my computer. No TPM means that you're "not eligible" for 11, meaning I don't get nagged by the random full screen pop-ups.

[–] magoosh@feddit.nl 19 points 1 week ago

I updated my bios at some point and it turned on the TPM again, be careful! When I got an update window and quite the shock, I added a group policy to block the update as a backup.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (18 children)

How is it gonna nag me to upgrade to Windows 11 when I don't have a TPM?

I'd love to upgrade, the system is completely capable of running it, but because it doesn't have a useless bit of hardware I can't. Fuck em.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not useless. It will enable MS to build the walled garden they want, where you are forced to use the software they permit you to and nothing else.

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[–] icogniito@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am very glad I moved to Linux full time

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Despite what everyone told me on message boards about lack of support for Adobe products and CAD software... somehow I've been really successful on linux-only for many many years now.

It's really nice. Remember when your computer was actually yours? You choose what apps to install, what configuration you want, and who you share your data with? Those dreams are alive with Linux: Not just for nerds anymore.

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[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 week ago

Not as bad as a recent security patch which unexpectedly upgraded Windows Server 2022 to 2025 causing at least a few outages I know about for our clients.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 33 points 1 week ago

M$oft: "Your hardware, my computer"

[–] aliser@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

as per usual, Microsoft remains the biggest advertiser to Linux

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[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

And when you try to install, they'll say "no you can't, get a new computer"

Microsoft is really in to the Year of Linux Desktop thing

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't be nagged about Windows 11 if you never switched to SecureBoot.

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Can't be nagged about Windows 11 if you ~~never switched to SecureBoot.~~ use Linux.

ftfy

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Anyone know where I can buy a gaming PC with linux preinstalled instead of windows?

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pretty much all modern Linux installers offer to wipe the existing drive and overwrite. Just prepare a USB drive and boot from it, then follow the steps in the wizard.

Create bootable media - Linux Mint

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Always remember to disable secureboot and remove bitlocker before installing linux on a oem windows machine. They make it hell to remove that malware from newer machines.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bitlocker doesn't mean anything when you delete its partition.

I would recommend keeping secure boot enabled if your OS supports it, and manually enrolling the key if it doesn't. Boot chain attacks are a real concern.

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have a system76 machine. It's been really good with steam. Or a steam deck, it's just a PC.

Their laptops are not worth it if I'm honest. They have issues with the hinges. I had two of them give out. They use a very cheap plastic. But you are guaranteed no driver issues if you use PoPOS on their own machines.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just build one, cheaper to boot.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Ew and buy components? No thank you, just mine, smelt, and build them, cheaper to boot.

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[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago

At least when it came to a laptop, I bought mine without a preinstalled OS - that is far more common than preinstalled Linux.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I built one — took about 4 hours once all the parts arrived. My first build. Installed Linux Mint from a flash drive and it worked perfectly. Ended up switching to Zorin OS later — also works fine.

I have been able to play every game I wanted, except one requiring a VR headset.

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[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (26 children)

Is there anyway to permanently stop windows from updating? I tried few methods off YT but updates do not stop.

(No, don't recommend me Linux. I have tried it(Mint and Manjaro) and it is way out of my skillset)

[–] Vanshaj@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm glad to see someone not downvoted for refusing to use Linux on Lemmy. The environment here is getting better for even non-linux users.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US (which is usally a majority as it was for Reddit) just hasnt woken up yet /s

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it. Every day, attackers develop new methods to compromise your system. Those updates fix the vulnerabilities. In this increasingly connected age, those fixes are critical.

[–] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, don't recommend me Linux

Ok, ok... Get a mac 🤣

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[–] Player404@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Turn off TPM support in bios to prevent the windows 11 install popups. Win 11 requires TPM.

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[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://github.com/tsgrgo/windows-update-disabler

Everything else people commonly suggest online does not work.

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[–] Warjac@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If they keep this up when are they going to offer to buy me a new PC for the new OS?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They won't, but they bought me a brand new shiny copy of Linux Mint.

[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'll keep running W10 on my current machine, but when I build the next one I'm very seriously considering going Linux. My only concern is that many of the software I use regularly don't have Linux versions.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Finally, the year of the Linux desktop

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Bro istg if I reboot my windows separate ssd and it's windows 11 am fully gonna use Linux

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Didn't they do that since win7?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I actually had a nightmare last night that my computer updated itself to some horrid version of windows and I spent it all frantically looking for my windows 7 ISO and keygen among old backups to blow it away and start again.

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