this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
139 points (94.3% liked)

politics

19118 readers
2694 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

JD Vance has suggested that American support for NATO should be predicated on the European Union not regulating Elon Musk and his X social media platform, formerly known as Twitter.

The Republican vice presidential nominee and Ohio senator claimed in an interview with YouTuber Shawn Ryan that a top EU official had threatened to arrest the billionaire if he allowed former President Donald Trumpback on X. 

“The leader, I forget exactly which official it was within the European Union, but sent Elon this threatening letter that basically said, ‘We’re going to arrest you if you platform Donald Trump,’ who, by the way, is the likely next president of the United States,” Vance said in the interview published last week.

top 21 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're literally going to point to anything the EU does and say "Oh! Gotta pull out of NATO now!" They'll even make up shit that EU didn't do (probably like this fake ass threat letter) as excuse.

They intend to get out if they can, unless they get unilateral control, in order to strengthen Russia.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At this point the EU should just fucking seize all US assets within their borders, expel the US from NATO, and ramp up military investment. Trumps presence is only a noose around the EU.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

They should tell Trump that if he tries to fuck around, they'll all immediately start trading oil in Euros. Maybe just do that anyway as a fuck you.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Because nothing says freedom, and for the common human, like threatening to leave a defense pact over a private corporation. Fuck these guys to the fucken core. I am fucken over corporations having such power. I'm about willing to send us back to the stone age just to wipe their wealth. Fuck it. We can all go down if you want to be an eternal cunt to the rest of humanity.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Dumb and dumber want to take on EU regulatory entities?

[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Threatening Europe so the apartheid inheritance child can get richer. The new lows from the new government start now!

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

He wants Europe taking in Twitter propaganda.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

DO IT!

Just look at the TPP. The US tried to write the rules and the rest of the partners said, "No." The US said, "Screw you guys, we're going home!" and stormed off in a snit assuming the deal would fall apart without them but it didn't and it ended up being better without the US imperialist bullshit. Then, US farmers realized that they were getting fucked because the US wasn't part of the deal ([1], [2], [3]) and the US came back demanding to be let in and the US imperialist bullshit restored to the agreement. Once again the partnerd said, "No".

Let's let the US leave whatever they want to leave, renegotiate everything without them, then only let them return under the new terms. The world will be a much better place in the end.

EDIT: Trump ordered the US to withdraw from the TPP because the partners wouldn't be bullied into accepting one-sided andi-competitive, anti-consumer protections for US industry and a dispute resolution process that favoured the US but that the US would ignore when it lost.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, let's replace the world order of the last hundred years to one that's run by Russia and China. So edgy and cool.

[–] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

TF? He was obviously talking about the eu I think.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't know I suppose I misread.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh god. I was so focused on Trump I forgot this dimwit came with him as a package deal.

Vance is smart. He says stupid shit for consumption by stupid people but don't ever turn your back on him.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Good old blackmail.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's time for Europe to pay back the US by invading the US to kill fascists.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

The 3rd amendment shields us from housing military without our consent. But does anything prevent us from willingly housing foreign troops?

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is how you get new alliances around the world against the US. This could spiral very quickly.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Exactly what russia wants. Why they backed trump

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's literally Donald Trump's agenda. That's why he fought the TPP.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, "JD" "Vance" had better remember to always do what donvict wants him to do, otherwise, he'll get the Pence treatment.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Didn't the European commission recently declare that Twitter had become too irrelevant to regulate?