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After a shooter killed six people at Nashville’s Covenant School in 2023, Tennessee’s Republican-controlled legislature ignored calls to pass gun control measures. Instead, they passed a series of increasingly punitive laws aimed not only at preventing future violence but dissuading kids from making threats that disrupt school and terrify other students.

Two contradictory laws went into effect before this school year began. One requires school officials to expel a student only if their investigation finds the threat is “valid,” a term that the law does not define. The other mandates that police charge people, including kids, with felonies for making threats of any kind, credible or not. As a result, students across the state can be arrested for statements that wouldn’t even get them expelled.

Tennessee has not yet released statewide data on how many arrests for threats of mass violence have been made since school started in August. But Hamilton County arrested 18 students in the first six weeks of the school year, more than twice as many as Nashville’s Davidson County — despite Hamilton having far fewer students. Data that ProPublica and WPLN obtained through a records request shows that at least 519 students were charged with threats of mass violence last school year, when it was a misdemeanor, an increase from 442 the prior year. Many of them were middle schoolers and most were boys. The youngest child charged last school year was 7 years old.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago

"Black kid?"

(reads article)

"Yup, black kid."

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Went back to a TN high school recently for the first time since graduating to do some work.

They had to call local police to check my tool box to make sure it didn't have a gun hidden anywhere, which took almost an hour.

Every single door is locked constantly. Every classroom is locked with a key, so anyone needing to get inside needs the knock to be let in and disturb class. If the teacher needs to go to the bathroom between periods, all the students not already in the class are locked outside.

At one point, I left a door propped open cause I didn't want to disturb the people running lines. The principal, who used to be my principal at another school, attempted to give yell at me over it.

They've also distributed an iPad to every student to act as a hall pass. Except they have to request the pass, raise their hand, ask to use the bathroom, then the teacher has to pull out their iPad and approve it. All of this takes a ton of time.

Starting this year, they only get 3 passes a day. Period. Anymore and the principal has to approve it personally or it's detention. They have nothing in place to make it so kids with intestinal issues can have more passes, and this systems been in place for 3 years now. Every student I talked to told me they knew someone who pissed their pants in class because they weren't allowed to leave under threat of detention or suspension.

TN schools and TN in general is just fucked beyond belief now. And the people who put all these ridiculous policies into place are all currently running unopposed.

The Covenant School shooting and moronic conservative parents having an insane amount of control has straight up regresses TN schools to a worse point of security theatre than post columbine or 9/11. All over a single shooting.

Edit: apologies for my horrendous grammar. However, I'm currently too tired to fix it right now

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Wow that's horrible, and has to be terrible for kids' mental health and general perspective on the world. Kids should know what freedom feels like and expect it as the default, and this kind of repression is liable to result in more outbursts of any kind.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 32 points 15 hours ago

Tennessee Police Arrested Him Anyway.

Of course they did. The kid is black, in Tennessee. Once he reaches puberty they'll just shoot him instead.

I wish this was more of a joke than it actually is.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The other mandates that police charge people, including kids, with felonies for making threats of any kind, credible or not.

Holy shit is that true? Kids say stupid things ALL THE TIME. They're impulsive and don't understand what it means to think about the future. And you're going to put a FELONY on that kids record???

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago

The world is fucked up enough as it is and now these kids are starting life as felons. Can't get a job, can't vote, etc. For saying something dumb as a child.

Fuck this country man I'm done. If Harris doesn't win I'm working on an exit strategy.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 5 points 13 hours ago

Hell I am in my 40s and am neurodivergent and say stupid shit all the time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Tennessee's child labor law allows children as young as 14 to work.

Prisoners are legal slaves and can be compelled to work.

I guess we have Trump's solution to replacing all the jobs after expelling all the immigrants.

[–] FlightyPenguin@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

Prison slavery is actually now unconstitutional in the state, as of TN's last election.

[–] littletoolshed@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I am not disagreeing with you, just wanted to point out that the age minimum in the US is set at the federal level, and then the states can further restrict; I don’t think they can go below the federal limit:

The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets wage, hours worked, and safety requirements for minors (individuals under age 18) working in jobs covered by the statute. The rules vary depending upon the particular age of the minor and the particular job involved. As a general rule, the FLSA sets 14 years old as the minimum age for employment, and limits the number of hours worked by minors under the age of 16.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I would feel more comfortable about that if it wasn't clear that red states couldn't give less of a shit what the federal law is anymore.

[–] littletoolshed@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Absolutely agree.

Btw, the entertainment industry has also gotten their way with child labor, I just noticed this for CA: https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/MinorsSummaryCharts.pdf

Sometimes we forget that child actors are labor too.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 7 points 13 hours ago

Gotta feed the orphan crushing machine.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

Valid or not.

Time to check out the publicly available names and numbers of those Rs.